Wednesday, November 02, 2005

microsoft moves to take on web services

nov 2nd

this is what we have been discussing here: the threat to microsoft, and its response to web service-based competition.

if you cant beat 'em, join 'em: that seems to be microsoft's idea.

i am beginning to like this guy mark benioff: he's been shooting his mouth off regarding ellison for some time, and now he's extending it to microsoft. scott mcnealy of sun used to be the most entertaining character among tech CEOs but he seems to have lost his old flair for one-liners. benioff may be worth watching. unless, that is, ellison swallows up as well.


Randhir said...

Where does Benioff get Microsoft had "let us down on innovation", I've seen even the staunchest Microsoft supporters accept the fact that Microsoft has NEVER ever lead the tech market in terms of innovation.

DarkStorm said...

Well, I thought so, and I said it earlier. Microsoft is known for taking an existing technology, improving it and giving it to the market. They havent innovated much, but taken lot of ideas, improvised, adapted, and packaged it well. They have the early mover advantage, and no other competitor comes half as close to MS in user-friendliness and ease of use.

So , now Microsoft will join the AJAX bandwagon.
Also, I read, "Microsoft unveils online versions of Office". I dont think it will be a success.

Lets see. I believe, the semantic web projects of Google have much better chances of making a killing, rather than their obsession of beating MS and playing with web services.

You will not need a faster computer to use web services, but webservices will be limited in the features they provide. You will need a fast machine to use the heavier features, a webservice can provide. I cannot imagine working on my browser instead of the wonderful Eclipse IDE. Eclipse uses lot of memory/CPU for the features it provides, and I can imagine the amount of time a similar webService would take to auto-complete on the browser. I also do not think a webservice is going to be efficient in sorting 10000 rows of a spreadsheet over the web. Also, the web is unreliable, anywhere in the world. And insecure.

DarkStorm said...

>> Eclipse uses lot of memory/CPU for the features it provides, and I can imagine the amount of time a similar webService would take to auto-complete on the browser. <<

Many a times for simple editing, it is much faster to manually type in using textpad, rather than waiting for autocomplete to respond with a list ( on my P4 2.4 with 512 MB )

Also, friends, any idea about how AMD works. I am thinking of buying another computer at home, and I think AMD would be fine, going by the many reviews I have read. But I am confused by their naming system. I have been following the rigs from the Intel stables for a long time, and I am not too much in touch with AMD. I heard AMD runs cooler and has less defects than Intel.

Waiting for the dual core processors to be out , seems to be a cool idea

Randhir said...

Check The Web-Desktop Fusion Movement

DarkStorm said...


what about privacy, security and reliability concerns.

in that article
"Whether consumers will accept yet another computing model, any slowdown in how fast their software reacts because of network congestion, or a controlled, monolithic environment in exchange for more features, more sharing capabilities, and a simpler, unified interface is a different question altogether."

This is a big question. The same was the hype during the times of Java. In fact, Java fuelled the need for faster machines. Also, the web is slow, much much slower than the desktop. Given a chance, you would always prefer to use Outlook, rather than web to access mail, for its speed.

Outlook with a local mail server is way faster anyday than using web based mail, whatever the bandwidth.

Using Word locally or using picasa (again a google product :) ) is much faster than accessing your files off the web, and waiting for flash plugins to load and render.

Ideas like the fusion of web and desktop will be successful, but will never quench the need for speed. Also, that AJAX and Googles webservices can break MS stronghold, seems like a far shot. They will co-exist, but never replace.

The same was the hype created during oracles netPc time, Java on the desktop, and now Googles webservices.

Randhir said...

Darkstorm, Agree 100%.