Thursday, September 30, 2010

hudaibiya?: Ownership of Ayodhya, Hindu sacred space: fine print in judgements

sep 30th, 2010

hudaibiya? this is scary -- see in the mohammedan judge's comments below, where he refers to hudaibiya. 

i smell kitman and taqiya.

in case you didn't know, the treaty of hudaibiya was signed by PBUH (see i give him utmost respect by not even mentioning his name only his honorific) when mohammedans were in a position of weakness. but as soon as they became powerful they tore up the treaty and attacked the other party, and if am not mistaken, massacred them.

also, musharraf mentioned hudaibiya in his speech in urdu the day after 9/11, when the yanks gave him their ultimatum and he had to comply. as can be seen, he never did comply with the agreement, by covertly funding and supporting the taliban. 

sum and substance: hudaibiya is a code word for a tactic whereby you agree to something from a position of weakness with no intention of ever honoring the agreement. 

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From: S. Kalyanaraman
Subject: Ownership of Ayodhya, Hindu sacred space: fine print in judgements

Centre's duty to implement order: Mayawati

Agencies Posted online: Thu Sep 30 2010, 19:39 hrs
Lucknow : Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati on Thursday said it was the responsibility of the Union government to implement the Allahabad High Court verdict in the Ayodhya title suit.

Citing a Supreme Court order, she said since the 67 acres of the disputed site was acquired and being managed and maintained by the Centre, the onus of implementing today's court order was with the Union government.

Mayawati said she has already sent a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh saying the Centre should fulfill its responsibility in implementing the high court order without any delay.

She cited the Supreme Court ruling on the plea of a petitioner Ismail Farooqui in 1994, which stated that the acquired land would continue to be under the possession of the central government and it was its duty to implement the pending verdict of the Lucknow bench.

The Chief Minister's remarks come close on the heels of her attack on the Centre for not providing adequate paramilitary forces to the state to deal with any eventuality in the aftermath of the verdict.

The Centre would be held responsible in case of any law and order problem arising out of delay in implementation of the high court order, Mayawati said.

Mayawati accused the Centre of adopting "step motherly" attitude towards the state government ever since she came to power in 2007.

"Against the demand of over 60,000 personnel of central paramilitary forces in view of the high court verdict, the state was provided with only 5,000 jawans," she said.

Attacking Home Minister P Chidambaram for his statement that the state has adequate force, she said 1.90 lakh personnel who have been deployed are the state's own.

The state forces have been deployed judiciously by the UP government to deal with the situation, she said.

Mayawati appealed to the people to maintain peace and communal harmony.

In a warning to communal forces, she said, "No one would be allowed to take law in his hands and stern action would be taken against those attempting to do so."

Published: October 1, 2010 01:41 IST | Updated: October 1, 2010 01:41 IST

Justice Khan justifies partition of land in Ayodhya

J. Venkatesan

If exclusive ownership is claimed but joint ownership is proved, a suit can be decreed for joint ownership, Justice S.U. Khan held in his separate judgment, broadly agreed to by Justice Sudhir Agarwal in a separate judgment in the Ayodhya title suits case.

Quoting a Bombay High Court ruling, he said a suit for exclusive possession could be turned into a suit for partition and possession of such share as might be determined to belong to the plaintiff if it was found that the plaintiff was not entitled to the whole share but only a part of it.

Justice Khan, quoting an earlier judgment, said that though there was no specific prayer made by the plaintiff seeking partition, this should not come in the way of granting a decree for partition and separate possession of the share of the plaintiff. Denial of such a relief would only lead to another suit. Multiplicity of proceedings should normally be avoided as the same tends to delay justice.

The judge said that in view of the finding rendered by him, "all the three parties (Muslims, Hindus and the Nirmohi Akhara) are entitled to a declaration of joint title and possession to the extent of one-third each and a preliminary decree to that effect is to be passed."

He said: "In the matter of actual partition it is only desirable but not necessary to allot that part of property to a party which was in his exclusive use and occupation. Accordingly, in view of peculiar facts and circumstances it is held that in actual partition, the portion where the idol is presently kept in the makeshift temple will be allotted to the Hindus, and the Nirmohi Akhara will be allotted land, including Ram Chabutra and Sita Rasoi. However, to adjust all the three parties at the time of actual partition, slight variation in the share of any party may be made to be compensated by allotting the adjoining land acquired by the Central government."

Justice Khan, in his 285-page judgment, said: "My judgment is short, very short. Either I may be admired as an artist who knows where to stop, particularly in such sensitive, delicate matter or I may be castigated for being so casual in such a momentous task. I have not delved too deep in the history and the archaeology. This I have done for four reasons. First, this exercise was not absolutely essential to decide these suits. Second, I was not sure as to whether at the end of the tortuous voyage I would have found a treasure or faced a monster (treasure of truth or monster of confusion worst confounded). Third, having no pretence of knowledge of history I did not want to be caught in the crossfire of historians. Fourth, the Supreme Court, in Karnataka Board of Waqf Vs. Government of India, has held as far as a title suit of civil nature is concerned, there is no room for historical facts and claims."

Justice Khan said:

"As this judgment is not finally deciding the matter and as the most crucial stage is to come after it is decided by the Supreme Court, I remind both the warring factions of the following. The one quality which epitomised the character of Ram is tyag [sacrifice].

"When Prophet Mohammad entered into a treaty with the rival group at Hudayliyah, it appeared to be abject surrender even to his staunch supporters.

"However the Koran described that as clear victory and it did prove so. Within a short span therefrom Muslims entered the Mecca as victors, and not a drop of blood was shed.

"Under the sub-heading of demolition, I have admired our resilience. However we must realise that such things do not happen in quick succession. Another fall and we may not be able to rise again, at least quickly. Today the pace of the world is faster than it was in 1992. We may be crushed.

A unique position

"Muslims must also ponder that at present the entire world wants to know the exact teaching of Islam in respect of relationship of Muslims with others. Hostility, peace, friendship, tolerance, opportunity to impress others with the Message, opportunity to strike wherever and whenever possible, or what? In this regard Muslims in India enjoy a unique position. They have been rulers here, they have been ruled and now they are sharers in power (of course junior partners). They are not in majority but they are also not a negligible minority (after Indonesia, India has the highest number of Muslims in the world). In other countries, either the Muslims are in huge majority, which makes them indifferent to the problem in question, or in negligible minority, which makes them redundant. Indian Muslims have also inherited huge legacy of religious learning and knowledge. They are therefore in the best position to tell the world the correct position. Let them start with their role in the resolution of the conflict at hand."

Published: October 1, 2010 01:11 IST | Updated: October 1, 2010 01:11 IST

Both parties could derive satisfaction: Karunanidhi

Special Correspondent

Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi, reacting to the Ayodhya verdict, said, "For securing peace in the country, both parties [to the dispute] could derive satisfaction over the judgment."

It was also welcome as there was provision for appeal by those who felt aggrieved over the verdict, he pointed out.

Admirable verdict: Jayalalithaa

The judgment has opened the door to the path of reconciliation, All-India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam general-secretary Jayalalithaa said.

In a statement, she described the verdict as "admirable," and called upon the parties concerned to fully appreciate the spirit of the judgment and strive to evolve a solution that would make India a shining model of dynamic secularism.

Disappointing, says Swamy

Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy has called upon the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh to form a committee and launch a nationwide agitation.

The agitation was meant to demand that the Union government display even-handedness by amending the Acquisition of Certain Area at Ayodhya Act of 1993 to bar the construction of any structure other than those connected with the temple of Lord Ram.

Terming the verdict "deeply disappointing," Dr. Swamy said in a statement that the Supreme Court should be moved for appealing against the judgment.

Secular verdict?

Disputed structure built against the tenets of Islam: Judge

Fri, Oct 1 12:08 AM

Lucknow, Sep 30 (PTI) Holding that the entire disputed site in Ayodhya is the birth place of Lord Ram, Justice Dharam Veer Sharma of the Allahabad High Court today said that the "place of birth is a juristic person and is a deity." "The spirit of divine ever remains present everywhere at all times for anyone to invoke in any shape or form in accordance with his own aspirations and it can be shapeless and formless," Justice Sharma said in his judgement on the Ayodhya title suits. He said the structure constructed by Babar was against the tenets of Islam and cannot have the character of a mosque. "The disputed building was constructed by Babar, the year is not certain but it was built against the tenets of Islam. Thus, it cannot have the character of a mosque," the judge said. He said the disputed structure was constructed on the site of the old structure after its demolition. The Archaeological Survey of India has proved that it was a massive Hindu religious structure, he said. The judge said the disputed site "is the birth place of Lord Ram" and that a "place of birth is a juristic person and is a deity." He said the idols of Lord Ram were placed in the middle dome of the disputed structure in the intervening night of December 22-23, 1949. The judge held that the Sunni Central Board of Waqfs, UP and another main petitioner Nirmohi Akhara were barred by time for claims for title. He said it established that the property in suit is the site of "Janmabhoomi of Ram Chandraji and Hindus in general had the right to worship Charan, Sita Rasoi, other idols and other objects of worship that existed on the property in suit." It has also been established that Hindus have been worshipping the place in dispute as Janmasthan and visiting it as a sacred placed of pilgrimage "as a right since time immemorial". After the construction of the disputed structure it has been proved that the deities were installed inside the disputed structure on 22-23.12.1949. "It is also proved that the outer courtyard was in exclusive possession of Hindus and they were worshipping throughout and in the inner courtyard also they were worshipping," he said. Justice Sharma said, "it is also established that the disputed structure cannot be treated as a mosque as it came into existence against the tenets of Islam." PTI VMN VSC   

Ayodhya Ruling posted online

sep 30th, 2010

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From: Arvind

dr kalyan: Importance of Ayodhya for the Rashtram

sep 30th, 2010

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From: S. Kalyanaraman
Date: 2010/9/30
Subject: Importance of Ayodhya for the Rashtram

धन्यवादः कल्याणरामन

Sri Rama is a personification of Hindu Rashtram. Ramo vigrahavaan dharmah, says Valmiki.(Rama is embodiment of dharma). This dharma, what Gautama called esha dhammo sanantano, is the foundation of the Rashtram.

Ayodhya is the locus of the cultural memory of the nation of Bharatam, what Rishi Vishwamitra called bharatam janam. विश्वामित्रस्य रक्षति ब्रह्मेदम भारतं जनम (RV 3.53.12) His prayer, his brahma shall protect the Bharata nation.


Wednesday, September 29, 2010

ayodhya forecast

sep 29th, 2010

1. whatever the verdict is, both sides will appeal to the supreme court

2. the verdict will be heavily skewed in favor of mohammedans, because the court wants to avoid riots

3. mohammedans will riot anyway. rage boys will run rampant, setting fire to hindu shops etc. 

so you better be prepared, take some defensive measures, be vigilant. the kerala government told visiting limey parliamentarians, for instance, to be extremely careful today, fearing trouble.

rage boy alert on sept 30th

sep 29th, 2010

sum and substance: whatever happens in the high court, mohammedans will riot. the rage boys will set fire to all sorts of things in kashmir, probably in hyderabad and malabar -- wherever they are in large numbers. 

"Peace" in action

Exemplary "peace", "goodwill",
"communal harmony" on display.

"Swami" Agnivesh, Burka Dutt et al would surely extol this as a fine instance of "composite culture".

Where is Cedric Prakash - inventor of "Gujarat genocide" mythology?

Where is Teesta Setalvad -of the "ghastly rapes" cottage industry?

These worthies will be conspicuously silent. The victim is a mere Hindu.

Didn't you know that "Mahatma"
Ghandy had conceded away the
right of the "Peace" party to perpetrate such acts of "brotherhood" way back in the
1920's, in the interest of "preserving age old amity"?
I can't seem to remember -
Was the undertaking part of the Lucknow pact? Or was it a principle in Chacha Nehru's doctrine of Panchsheel?

Notice how the TOIlet paper attempts to minimize and negate
the atrocity by describing the victim as "Dalit", i.e. as distinct from "Hindu".

Two Dalit girls gangraped near Delhi
29 Sep, 2010 2212hrs IST IANS

GREATER NOIDA: In two separate cases, two Dalit girls were allegedly gangraped in Greater Noida and neighbouring Bulandshahr town, police said on Wednesday.

In the first incident, four Muslim men abducted and later gangraped a 20-year-old Dalit girl of Lahugala locality. When the girl threatened to report the case to the police, the accused poured kerosene on her and set her on fire. The accused were identified as Saddam, Bhura, Sazid and Mazid.

She was taken to a local hospital from where she was referred to Safdarjung Hospital in Delhi. She is critical with 90 percent burns.

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

UN Seat for Kashmir offer from o'bummer; nobel peace prize too, probably

sep 27th, 2010

it's official now, the mother of all frauds from the original snake-oil salesmen.

the manchurian will offer the 'honest, decent' (TM) one a deal he cannot refuse:

a. security council seat (with conditions, such as no veto)
b. nobel peace prize 

in return for (drum roll......)

kashmir is given to the ISI!!!

and you want to bet the 'deal' will be accepted with open arms?

jai ho! all the jaichands will rush to tell us why this is the right thing to do.

so o'bummer will have his foreign policy victory, the ISI will be happy for about ten minutes and then will demand hyderabad and junagadh, and the 'leaders' and the ELM will extol this as the greatest peace initiative since, since, well... chamberlain said "we have peace in our time". 

and nobody will ask the obvious question: "if it's so easy for the yanks to give india the security council seat, why haven't they done it so far?"

of course the answer is: "no, the yanks cannot give india the security council seat. the hans will veto it".

in the end, india will give up j&k, and the yanks will say, "but, we tried. we couldn't get you the seat because china wouldn't allow it". or, "china only agrees to a non-veto, second-class membership for india". or, "china says india can be in the security council only when pakistan is also in the security council:".

let us remember that when the asian seat was offered to india, the wise one's response was: "give the seat to china first". now china is returning the compliment and saying, "give the seat to pakistan first". oh yes, famous negotiation tactics.

this is yet another himalayan blunder, like the 'nuclear deal'.

end result: ISI will transfer j&k to china and move its storm troopers into UP, kerala, hyderabad, etc. 

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From: Jatin 
Date: Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:34 AM
Subject: UN Seat for Kashmir


You must have come across this already - if not:

Certainly the ultimate Fak-Ap strategy from Obummer.



WASHINGTON: Go for a Kashmir solution and help bring stability to the region for a ticket to UN Security Council membership and fulfilling your big power aspirations. That's the broad message President Barack Obama will be bringing to New Delhi during his upcoming November visit to India, preparation for which are in full swing in Washington DC. 

The Kashmir settlement-for-seat at high table idea (euphemism for UNSC membership) is being discussed animatedly in the highest levels of the US administration, according to a various sources. President Obama himself has decided to revive the process of a US push in this direction, albeit discreetly, because of New Delhi's sensitivities. 

(Kerala) "Muslim women are like caged birds" says Rayana Khazi who refuses to don a burqa, inspite of death threats

sep 28th, 2010

this doesn't excite any of the human-rights or womens'-rights cottage industry or the ELM.

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From: Ravi

Undaunted by death threats, she refuses to don a burqa

September 23, 2010 

As told to Shobha Warrier

Inspired by her mother, Rayana R Khazi refuses to give into the forces of fundamentalism.

Rayana R Khazi, from a small town in Kasargod district in north Kerala, is unlike any other 22-year-old girl.

Unlike other girls in her village, she traveled to Chennai to pursue her dream of becoming an aeronautical engineer.

She is now preparing for the civil services examination and wants to be an Indian Administrative Services officer.

But she confronts death threats from fundamentalists in her community and been forced to stay home.

The reason: Rayana refuses to cover her head and wear a burqa.

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sad but true: Application Form for Lok Sabha Election

sep 28th, 2010

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From: Raj

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From: Suman

Application Form for "Lok Sabha Election"


1.     Name of Candidate:_____________________

2.      Present Address:
 (i.)Name of Jail:_____________________
 (ii.)Cell Number:_____________________
3. Political Party:_____________________
 *List ONLY the last 5 parties in Chronological (Order)


4.Sex: [ ]
 A- Male
 B- Female
 C- Mayawati
 D- Uma Bharathi
5. Nationality: [ ]
 A- Italian
 B- Indian
6. Reasons for leaving last party (circle one or more)
 A- Defected
 B- Expelled
 C- Bought out
 D- None of above
 E- All of above
7. Reasons for contesting elections (circle one or more)
 A- To make money
 B- To escape court trial
 C- To grossly misuse power
 D- To serve the public
 E- I have no clue
 (If you choose "D, attach Certificate of Sanity from a
 Recognized Government Psychiatrist)
8. No of years of public service experience do you possess?
 A- 1-2 yrs
 B- 2-6yrs
 C- 6-15yrs
 D- 15+yrs
9. List the criminal cases pending against you (Use as many
 Additional Sheets as you want)
10. How many years have you spent in Jail? [ ]
 (Don�t confuse with question 8)
 A- 1-2 years
 B- 2-6 years
 C- 6-15 years
 D- 15+years
11. Are you involved in any financial scams? [ ]
 A- Why not
 B- Of course
 C- Definitely
 D- I deny it all
 E- I see a foreign hand.
12. What is your Annual Corruption Income? [ ]
 A- 100-500 Crore
 B- 500-1000 Crore
 C- Overflow...
 (Convert all your $ earning from hawala etc to Rupees)
13. Do you have any developmental plans for India in mind? [ ]
 A- No
 B- No
 C- No
 D- No
14. Describe your achievements in space provided:
Issued in public interest by Election Commission of India



Mani Shankar Aiyer responsible for Games flop

sep 28th, 2010

arvind dug up this information -- so was the sonia gandhi commonwealth kumbhakonam (fraud to the uninitiated) really an idea from iyer?

wouldn't put it past him by any means.

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From: Arvind
May 24, 2006
Aiyar heads C'wealth Games apex committee

Jul 7, 2006
Aiyar who visited Manchester City on Tuesday had a first hand glimpse of the facilities made available for the 2002 Games. 

Aug 24, 2006
The Minister of Panchayati Raj and Youth Affairs & Sports Shri Mani Shankar Aiyar has said ... the actual conduct of the Games by the Organising Committee; and preliminary estimates for the preparation of the teams for the Games, the estimated expenditure on Government account would be around Rs.3,750 crore.

Dec 13, 2006
The Commonwealth Games 2010 would cover 17 disciplines. The Games are scheduled to be held from October 3 to 14, 2010 in Delhi. Shri Mani Shankar Aiyar, Minister of Panchayatri Raj, Youth Affairs and Sports and DONER, informed the Parliamentary Consultative Committee attached to the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports which he chaired last evening.
A revenue neutral budget of Rs. 767 crore, with a flexibility to sanction an escalation of 15 per cent by the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports, has been recommended for the Organising Committee. It has also been recommended that a risk analysis of the projected revenue stream and detailed exercise for validation of the budget would be undertaken, and a system of concurrent audit put in place. So far, funds to the tune of Rs.99.76 crore have been provided to the Organising Committee, to meet various international commitments and other requirements of expenditure. EFC has agreed to and recommended a budget of Rs.1000 crore to Sports Authority of India with scope of variation upto 10 per cent within which Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports can give approvals. An amount of Rs. 12.50 crore has so far been released to the SAI for appointment of Consultants for the preparation of designs, etc, in respect of the infrastructure to be developed by SAI. EFC has approved/recommended an amount of Rs. 325 crore to be provided to DDA with a flexibility of 25 per cent within which the Ministry could give the necessary approvals.


Monday, September 27, 2010

where did stuxnet come from?

sep 27th, 2010

pretty intriguing. from good morning silicon valley:

"An electronic war has been launched against Iran."

— Mahmoud Liayi, head of the information technology council at Iran's ministry of industries, on a worm that has infected the computer systems at that country's first nuclear power plant. The Stuxnet worm, which also has been found in India and Indonesia, targets SCADA(supervisory control and data acquisition) systems, such as utilities or other infrastructure controls, by exploiting security holes in Microsoft's Windows. Security researchers from Symantec and Kaspersky Lab disagree about when the Stuxnet worm first attacked (January or July), but they do agree that its scope and sophistication — and whose existence is referred to by a Forbescontributing writer as a "game-changer" — make it likely that it was government-backed, according toComputerworld. A cybersecurity expert quoted by theWall Street Journal says suspects include the U.S., U.K., and Israel.


so found in india and indonesia as well, eh? guess then it's china's handiwork. they are the guys who have made asymmetric and total warfare a priority

For Bloomberg Ganesh is Elephant God; by that logic is jesus a sheep god?

sep 27th, 2010

actually, jesus is the corpse god. you know, the mutilated, bloody corpse of a dead jew stuck on a stick is what they worship. they call it a cross.

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From: Vipul 

Namaskaar Rajeev,
I am working in financial services industry in Mumbai. One of my clients mentioned that the bloomberg terminal flashed a news item today on Ganesh, calling him Elephant God. The reporters are spineless Hindus, Hari Govind and Jay Shankar.
India Day Ahead: Elephant God Marks Retail Boom; `Worrisome' Rice Prices
By Hari Govind - Sep 8, 2010
The following are some of the important stories that broke overnight, and newspaper summaries in India today:
Elephant God Marks Indian Boom for $12,500 Suits, Titan Watches
S.K. Singhal, textile president of India's biggest fabric maker, still has suits left made from the premium bale of Australian wool he bought in 2008 before the global recession. That didn't stop him buying another bale this year to make $12,500 suits for bridegrooms


Elephant God Marks Indian Boom for $12,500 Bridegroom Suits, Titan Watches

By Madelene Pearson and Jay Shankar - Sep 9, 2010
S.K. Singhal, head of textiles at India's biggest fabric maker, bought the finest wool Australia ever auctioned this year to make fifty $12,500 suits. In the wedding and festival season starting tomorrow, he expects to sell the lot.

A quick survey on Shri Ram Janmbhumi Issue

sep 27th, 2010

i am forwarding this request based on the fact that the verdict is supposed to happen tomorrow, sep 28th. all i know about this survey is what you see here. 

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From: Shobhit Mathur

Namaste Rajeev,

Would it possible to post the survey below on your blog. We are collecting public opinion and would like to leverage your blog to collect a wider response. Any ideas are welcome



If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out online:

A quick survey on Shri Ram Janmbhumi Issue

We, at Social Cause, are conducting a small survey to get people's view on the Ram Janmbhumi issue. Social cause is an institution committed for social thought and action (

Muslim shoots Hindu police sub-inspector dead near Nilambur (Malappuram)

sep 27th, 2010

this excited no breathless commentary in the media.

just imagine the fuss there would have been if the reverse had been true, and a hindu criminal shot and killed a mohammedan police officer.

this is the state of the art in india. a mohammedan can do anything to a hindu and get away with it.

incidentally after two weeks, there is absolutely no cry for justice. the poor hindu man's family is grieving for him, that's all. and then they will probably get a pittance from the government. 

meanwhile the stone-throwing terrorists in jammu-kashmir who died in police firing are being given rs. 500,000 as compensation.

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From: Ravi

Accused shoots SI near Nilambur

Staff Reporter, Sep 13, 2010

MALAPPURAM: A police sub-inspector who went to the house of an accused to serve him an arrest warrant was shot dead at Chokkad, near Nilambur, on Sunday. Vijaya Krishnan, 53, Grade Sub-Inspector of the Kalikavu police station, was shot on the chest with a country-made rifle. He died on the way to hospital.

Arangodan Mujeeb Rahman, accused in a marriage fraud case, escaped into the forests after shooting the sub-inspector. Rahman reportedly fired four rounds at a police team that came to his house near Girijan Colony at Chokkad with the warrant issued by the Family Court.

The police team reached his house with the warrant at 12.45 p.m. after he refused to respond to the calls from the police station.

Rahman shot at the police team from the first floor of his house. Vijaya Krishnan was felled by the first shot. The accused ran away and escaped into the forests.

Senior police officers including Additional Director-General of Police Mahesh Kumar Singla and Inspector-General B.S. Mohammed Yasin visited the spot. 

Vijaya Krishnan belonged to Ambalapadi, Wandoor. His body was shifted to the Medical College Hospital, Kozhikode, for post-mortem examination.

tapan ghosh interview on hindu genocide in west bengal

sep 27th, 2010

read the comments. nobody wants to talk about what the mohammedans are doing in west bengal after having killed off all the hindus in bangladesh.

greater bangladesh is already a reality.

Arundhati Roy: India is a corporate Hindu state

sep 27th, 2010

if india were a christist, mohammedan or communist state (as you would like it to be), you would have been a) stoned to death, b) shot, c) had your throat sliced because you are a traitor, ms. genocide suzie.

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From: sri 

Karan Thapar , CNN-IBN
Posted on Sep 12, 2010 at 16:03 | Updated Sep 12, 2010

Hello and welcome to Devil's Advocate. At the end of a week when the Maoists have been on the front pages practically every day, we present a completely different perspective to that of the government's. My guest today is an author, essayist and Booker Prize winner, Arundhati Roy.

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Stop Elephant slaughter - Must sign please...

sep 26th, 2010

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From: HARAN BR <>
Date: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:54 PM
Subject: Fwd: Stop Elephant slaughter - Must sign please...

Of late whatever happens in India is very sad and extremely painful.

Why should innocent animals die for the errors of the mankind?

Two elephant calves got caught in the railway track. Five adult elephants rushed to save them. Sadly and unfortunately all the seven elephants died crushed under a goods train.

The goods train had surpassed the permitted speed limit.

So, who must be punished?

The Prime Minister?

Or the Railway Minister?

Or the Environment  Minister?

Or the Forest Minister?

Or the Train Driver?

Or the Signal Man?

Or the entire Congress led government?

Please sign the petition...

With sadness and pain




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From: Parvinder Singh - <>
Date: 25 September 2010 08:38
Subject: Stop Elephant slaughter
To: "" <>

Dear friends across India,

Seven elephants were killed this week by a speeding train. But this terrible slaughter could have been prevented. Only a deafening outcry from citizens will push the Railway Minister to enforce safety measures and protect our elephants -- sign the urgent petition now:
Shockingly, seven helpless elephants were mowed down this week by a speeding goods train. But this terrible slaughter could have been prevented.

The massacre site in Jalpaiguri is a designated jumbo corridor where railway drivers are required to provide safe crossing to the elephants. Negligent train drivers have killed 150 elephants in India since 1987 despite the Environment Minster and the elephant task force repeatedly calling for the Railway Ministry to enforce safety measures. Only a deafening outcry from citizens across our country could push the Railway Minister to act.

It is time to put an end to this carnage. The two Ministers meet next week to discuss concrete measures to protect elephants. Let's build a massive movement to protect our elephants. Sign the petition to the Railway Minister Mamata Bannerjee calling on her to hold those responsible to account and immediately enforce crucial elephant protection measures -- it will be delivered directly to the Minister:

Elephants are highly intelligent and sensitive animals. They never abandon their injured and dead, and last week the whole herd was killed as they tried to save two calves injured on the track. But this slaughter is totally avoidable -- elephant paths are well known to the railway drivers and they always cross by night and can be spotted from a distance, if the trains are moving at the right speed.

Our wild elephants are already under siege from poachers, but the elephant task force has devised simple measures to protect them from trains: make drivers accountable for their actions, place speed governors on trains in sensitive areas, enforce patrolling along the tracks, stop the movement of good trains at night in elephant corridors and enforce strict safety measures in the 88 elephants corridors.

The Environment Minister has expressed outrage about this latest tragedy -- he was about to declare elephants our national heritage animal and announce the creation of a National Conservation Authority to ensure their protection. Let's support the Environment Minister and send a powerful signal to the Railway Minister that India demands immediate action before we lose one more elephant.

Throughout our history our elephants have been revered. It is now up to all of us to ensure their urgent protection from this brutal and senseless slaughter. Sign the petition now:

With sadness, hope and determination

Parvinder, Ricken, Alice and the whole Avaaz team


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Do Yoga. go to hell

sep 26th, 2010

christist tolerance in action.

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Sunday, September 26, 2010

Kalmadi isn't the only one to blame for CWG mess by Virendra Kapoor in Rediff + How Delgi Govt favored a Delhi based builder

sep 26th, 2010

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Now that Kalmadi has been shown the door sections of the media are making it as sound as if things would improve because he is no longer at the helm of affairs. I am no fan of Kalmadi or M S Gill but it is not right to crucify one man and leave the others.
Question to ask is 'Is Kalmadi the only man responsible for the mess'. This article by Virendra Kapoor was published a month ago in Rediff.
It must be a joke that India's Sports minister M S Gill is 70 plus and a former Chief Election Commissioner. What are the skills that be brought to the table for organizing CGames. One more reason why CG became a mess.
If the PM of a nation with a billion people has to get involved in organizing CGames it speaks volumes of his leadership qualities and management talent at his disposal.
Rgds sanjeev

Kalmadi isn't the only one to blame for CWG mess
Officially, Suresh Kalmadi [ Images ] had only Rs 6.7 billion to play around with as the Commonwealth Games [ Images ] boss.

As against this, Sheila Dikshit's government was allocated Rs 16.56 billion to upgrade the capital's infrastructure in time for the Games, notes Virendra Kapoor.


They may have virtually stripped Suresh Kalmadi of all powers as the chairman of the Organising Committee, Commonwealth Games, but he still continues to be its titular head.

And that way, Kalmadi serves a very useful purpose insofar as various ills of omission and commission of all others deeply connected with the preparations of the Delhi [ Images ] Games are best shielded from a prying media and an angry public seeking accountability and transparency.

So, whether it is Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit or Union Urban Development Minister Jaipal Reddy, Kalmadi's continuance as the notional head of the organising committee helps to make him a scapegoat while everyone else gets away by default.

Come to think of it, Kalmadi as the head of the OC had only a small fraction of the funds at his disposal to fool around with while Dikshit and Reddy control huge chunks of money earmarked for the Games.

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how to see segregation and ethnic cleansing

sep 26th, 2010

how segregated is your city?
 now imagine similar chart for kashmir, before and after pundits were ethnically cleansed

america, third world nation

sep 26th, 2010

welcome to the third world, america! see dynamic representation of bedbug infestation over time, gapminder style

preparing for manmohan giving kashmir to ISI to placate lame-duck o'bummer

sep 26th, 2010

let us prepare now for the inevitable rape: when obama is in india in november, manmohan will hand kashmir to the ISI.
this is the guy india is going to appease by giving kashmir to kayani? this lame-duck POTUS?