Thursday, November 03, 2005

arvind kumar on bible thumpers

nov 3rd

a powerful series of essays by arvind exposing the anti-intellectual, christist fundamentalist nonsense that goes on in the US. the sensible people in america are being drowned out by the loud chorus of idiots.

do circulate this widely. i especially like his thrashing of charlatans like stephen cohen

http://www.newsinsight.net/columns/full_column10.htm

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yaay! Finally the dense moron tenders his resignation.

link

The BJP should use this and other ammo to the hilt just as they did with Bofors to come back to power.

indianpatriot said...

Hi San,
And other Pro Americans in this forum what this article is should be a wake up call. I believe in Europe Christianity is in permanent decline( Like Communism). I donot hate enlightened Indian Christian leaders(I count George Fernandez who is from Mangalore and many others who accept Indian traditions of plurality. I also include many Indian muslims in this category). But there are many others who dance to Evangelical American Christian tunes. Same with Wahabists as well as marxists who dance to China's tunes.

KapiDhwaja said...

Got this from Bharat-Rakshak.com

Well known story from Mahabharata. Retold again by a patriotic Indian in their forum, disgusted with Indian response to Paki terror.

Here goes,

Long ago, in ancient India there was a demon called Bakasura, a glutton with an appetite for human flesh

This demon would terrorise the inhabitants of local villages near the forest where he lived.

He would kill men, women, children wantonly and cause huge destruction each time he felt hungry.

He often ended up killing many more people than he actually ate.

So elders of the village gathered their wits and pleaded with the demon to come to an arrangement.

Each week, one unlucky person in the village would be chosen to bring the demon food in a bullock cart.

The arrangement was that the demon would eat the food, the bullocks drawing the cart, and the person driving the cart.

So each week, one person made the ultimate sacrifice so that the rest of them could keep living.


Thousands of years later, same situation exists in India . And not just in one village.

Raghu said...

Outstanding articles by Arvind.

Anonymous said...

what is the big deal about the agenda of the bible thumpers.?
the right wingers in india want to use some similar thumping to make india a hindu state. the same is being done in the US. so what?
that is what right wing politics will take you to.

ex-Christian said...

Anonymous said, "the right wingers in india want to use some similar thumping to make india a hindu state."

As an ex-Christian, I wish what you say is true. Let me explain.

Christian State = barbarism, violence, and stupidity
Hindu state = equality, free-market, scientific advances, liberty, peace

Unfortunately, BJP is not pro-Hindu. As for Indians who oppose Hindus and equate Hindus with Christians, that is the result of brainwashing by Whites and subliminal desire to be a White. In other words, it is a manifestation of your inferiority complex.

Anonymous said...

what is the big deal about the agenda of the bible thumpers.?
the right wingers in india want to use some similar thumping to make india a hindu state. the same is being done in the US. so what?
that is what right wing politics will take you to.


Christist Anon,

The key difference is that America is a Christian state, while India is "secular", not Hindu. That is Christians control thier land, while Hindus don't theirs! That is why you justify the Christist thumping! Are you ok with Hindu thumping in their own land?

Also Christist thumping in thier own land is ok, afterall they are a Christian state, why the christist thumping in a non-Christian state like India! Will this happen if India was Hindu state, as it should be based on your logic!

Anonymous said...

The christist anon would have been brainwashed first in sunday-school madrasa and then by missionary filth. Now he is un-aware that he's a anti-national fanatic without any common-sense or logic.
Read the article again, stupid before vomitting missionary filth.

Anonymous said...

all you ignorant morons. if US is a christian state then how come you filth,calling youself a hindu can live in the US?. I cant help but laugh at the moronic ignorance of all your idiots who live in the US make a lot of money and donate a lot more to the republican party and then rant about christists. pity you all you fools, if you have any idea what the US is you read their constitution not pour money to the republicans.

Anonymous said...

all you ignorant morons. if US is a christian state then how come you filth,calling youself a hindu can live in the US?.

Albeit everyone is entitled to thier opinion, in these discussions, this is truly an extremist sentiment -- like a neo-nazi. By your same logic, christists and islamists in India should go to other lands where they can flock with their own ilk! Note I have only mentioned christists and islamists -- nobody can take away the rights of a law abiding and socially responsible citizen be he/she be a christian, muslim, hindu, sikh...

I cant help but laugh at the moronic ignorance of all your idiots who live in the US make a lot of money and donate a lot more to the republican party and then rant about christists.

Looks like "Mitra" in another avatar or another "mitra-like" character. Surely to be ignored!

pity you all you fools, if you have any idea what the US is you read their constitution not pour money to the republicans.

Looks like "Mitra" in another avatar or another "mitra-like" character. Surely to be ignored!

Anonymous said...

I agree. Everyone should read the article before spewing venom. It is a well reasoned article.

Raghu said...

Somebody posted Nutwer Singh has resigned. But the dunce doesn't seem to have done so. There is no news.... The alleged PM doesn't think there's enough evidence to dump Nut.

Anonymous said...

The Nuke deal is on the way to being killed. Good from our security perspective, as Brahma Chellaney and others have argued.
link
India should now wisely walk out of the deal. Sorry, san.

Kalyani said...

Thank you Rajeev (and Arvind Kumar).

It is like Druid's Get-a Fix Potion!

lostinATSL said...

Rajeev,
While I agree with everything you have said,thats the way we humans are. Christians look down on Hindus, Muslims on Hindus, Hindus on Muslims,whites on blacks,asians (and Indians) on whites, Chinese on indians......the list goes on. Its human nature,so get over it.

san said...

Sigh. Yet another example of missionary conversion curriculum:

http://people.biola.edu/faculty/georgea/PeoplesofIndia.htm

Note their basic description:

A study of different customs, social structure, religions, arts, and history of one of the world's most interesting and populous nations, India. Special emphasis will be placed upon the Christian response to one of the greatest contemporary mission fields and the largest unreached people groups of the world. Few guest speakers will be attending the class during the semester lecturing on their most recent visit to India. This is not a lecture class; rather, it involves discussions, oral presentations, colorful videos, field trips, quizzes/exams and a research project.

Kalyani said...

I remember reading somewhere (forget the exact quote)the gist of which is:-

Politicians are such,that,should the people governed, be cannibals,would not hesitate to offer them missionaries for breakfast,lunch,dinner and supper.