'peace' is getting to be like 'secular', completely meaningless. and orwellian.
and where are the bleeding hearts such as arudhati, shabana, teesta, kuldip, praful, n ram, rajdeep, et al?
right, all people are equal but chinese are more equal than others.
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Video contradicts China on shooting of Tibetans (NYT)
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video footage available at this link …
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ssCVRhOfjtA
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By Joseph Kahn, The New York Times
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video footage available at this link …
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ssCVRhOfjtA
(WTN-Ed)
By Joseph Kahn, The New York Times
Published: October 15, 2006
BEIJING A Romanian videotape that appears to show Chinese security
forces shooting two Tibetan refugees in the Himalayas contradicts
Beijing's claim that the refugees were shot when soldiers acted in
self-defense.
forces shooting two Tibetan refugees in the Himalayas contradicts
Beijing's claim that the refugees were shot when soldiers acted in
self-defense.
China on Thursday acknowledged that soldiers had killed one refugee and
wounded another in an incident that occurred Sept. 30. Xinhua, the
official news agency, said the soldiers had acted only after about 70
refugees seeking to cross illegally into Nepal from China attacked
border troops.
wounded another in an incident that occurred Sept. 30. Xinhua, the
official news agency, said the soldiers had acted only after about 70
refugees seeking to cross illegally into Nepal from China attacked
border troops.
The video, taken a long range, shows a slow-moving, single-file line of
Tibetan refugees climbing over a snow- covered mountain pass followed by
Chinese troops. A rifle shot is heard and the first climber in the pack
falls to the ground, followed by the climber at the tail end of the group.
Tibetan refugees climbing over a snow- covered mountain pass followed by
Chinese troops. A rifle shot is heard and the first climber in the pack
falls to the ground, followed by the climber at the tail end of the group.
A separate shot shows a uniformed Chinese soldier firing a rifle shot.
It then shows several gun-toting soldiers examining the shooting victims
and escorting some detainees back to a camp.
It then shows several gun-toting soldiers examining the shooting victims
and escorting some detainees back to a camp.
The video was first broadcast on Pro TV, a private Romanian television
network, and was made available on the Internet. It was taken by Sergiu
Matei, a Romanian cameraman on a climbing expedition on Cho Oyu, a peak
near China's border with Nepal.
network, and was made available on the Internet. It was taken by Sergiu
Matei, a Romanian cameraman on a climbing expedition on Cho Oyu, a peak
near China's border with Nepal.
Tibetans often leave China and cross into Nepal, at least partly because
their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, lives in exile in India and is
not permitted to visit China.
their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, lives in exile in India and is
not permitted to visit China.
The shooting was first reported by mountaineers in Nepal and was
circulated by human rights groups, including the International Campaign
for Tibet and Human Rights in China.
circulated by human rights groups, including the International Campaign
for Tibet and Human Rights in China.
Witness quoted by human rights groups said that those fired upon
included monks, woman and children and that the person killed in the
shooting was a 25-year-old Tibetan Buddhist nun.
included monks, woman and children and that the person killed in the
shooting was a 25-year-old Tibetan Buddhist nun.
After the allegations were made, the Chinese Foreign Ministry vowed to
investigate the matter. Xinhua subsequently issued a report saying that
the soldiers had fired in self-defense after soldiers tried to persuade
the group to go back home.
investigate the matter. Xinhua subsequently issued a report saying that
the soldiers had fired in self-defense after soldiers tried to persuade
the group to go back home.
"The stowaways refused and attacked the soldiers," the agency said.
The video does not offer a comprehensive account of what happened in the
encounter. It was shot from long distance - the narrator at one point
says the cameraman was at a distance of about one kilometer, or 1,100
yards - and only a few faces are clearly identifiable.
encounter. It was shot from long distance - the narrator at one point
says the cameraman was at a distance of about one kilometer, or 1,100
yards - and only a few faces are clearly identifiable.
But it does suggest that the shootings were not directly in response to
an attack on soldiers. The refugees were spaced far apart on a arduous
climb over a pass at an altitude of 5,800 meters, or 19,000 feet, and
called Nanpa La when the two victims fell.
an attack on soldiers. The refugees were spaced far apart on a arduous
climb over a pass at an altitude of 5,800 meters, or 19,000 feet, and
called Nanpa La when the two victims fell.
The American ambassador in Beijing, Clark Randt, went to the Foreign
Ministry on Thursday to "protest at China's treatment of the refugees,"
an embassy official said.
Ministry on Thursday to "protest at China's treatment of the refugees,"
an embassy official said.
BEIJING A Romanian videotape that appears to show Chinese security
forces shooting two Tibetan refugees in the Himalayas contradicts
Beijing's claim that the refugees were shot when soldiers acted in
self-defense.
China on Thursday acknowledged that soldiers had killed one refugee and
wounded another in an incident that occurred Sept. 30. Xinhua, the
official news agency, said the soldiers had acted only after about 70
refugees seeking to cross illegally into Nepal from China attacked
border troops.
wounded another in an incident that occurred Sept. 30. Xinhua, the
official news agency, said the soldiers had acted only after about 70
refugees seeking to cross illegally into Nepal from China attacked
border troops.
The video, taken a long range, shows a slow-moving, single-file line of
Tibetan refugees climbing over a snow- covered mountain pass followed by
Chinese troops. A rifle shot is heard and the first climber in the pack
falls to the ground, followed by the climber at the tail end of the group.
Tibetan refugees climbing over a snow- covered mountain pass followed by
Chinese troops. A rifle shot is heard and the first climber in the pack
falls to the ground, followed by the climber at the tail end of the group.
A separate shot shows a uniformed Chinese soldier firing a rifle shot.
It then shows several gun-toting soldiers examining the shooting victims
and escorting some detainees back to a camp.
It then shows several gun-toting soldiers examining the shooting victims
and escorting some detainees back to a camp.
The video was first broadcast on Pro TV, a private Romanian television
network, and was made available on the Internet. It was taken by Sergiu
Matei, a Romanian cameraman on a climbing expedition on Cho Oyu, a peak
near China's border with Nepal.
network, and was made available on the Internet. It was taken by Sergiu
Matei, a Romanian cameraman on a climbing expedition on Cho Oyu, a peak
near China's border with Nepal.
Tibetans often leave China and cross into Nepal, at least partly because
their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, lives in exile in India and is
not permitted to visit China.
their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, lives in exile in India and is
not permitted to visit China.
The shooting was first reported by mountaineers in Nepal and was
circulated by human rights groups, including the International Campaign
for Tibet and Human Rights in China.
circulated by human rights groups, including the International Campaign
for Tibet and Human Rights in China.
Witness quoted by human rights groups said that those fired upon
included monks, woman and children and that the person killed in the
shooting was a 25-year-old Tibetan Buddhist nun.
included monks, woman and children and that the person killed in the
shooting was a 25-year-old Tibetan Buddhist nun.
After the allegations were made, the Chinese Foreign Ministry vowed to
investigate the matter. Xinhua subsequently issued a report saying that
the soldiers had fired in self-defense after soldiers tried to persuade
the group to go back home.
investigate the matter. Xinhua subsequently issued a report saying that
the soldiers had fired in self-defense after soldiers tried to persuade
the group to go back home.
"The stowaways refused and attacked the soldiers," the agency said.
The video does not offer a comprehensive account of what happened in the
encounter. It was shot from long distance - the narrator at one point
says the cameraman was at a distance of about one kilometer, or 1,100
yards - and only a few faces are clearly identifiable.
encounter. It was shot from long distance - the narrator at one point
says the cameraman was at a distance of about one kilometer, or 1,100
yards - and only a few faces are clearly identifiable.
But it does suggest that the shootings were not directly in response to
an attack on soldiers. The refugees were spaced far apart on a arduous
climb over a pass at an altitude of 5,800 meters, or 19,000 feet, and
called Nanpa La when the two victims fell.
an attack on soldiers. The refugees were spaced far apart on a arduous
climb over a pass at an altitude of 5,800 meters, or 19,000 feet, and
called Nanpa La when the two victims fell.
The American ambassador in Beijing, Clark Randt, went to the Foreign
Ministry on Thursday to "protest at China's treatment of the refugees,"
an embassy official said.
Ministry on Thursday to "protest at China's treatment of the refugees,"
an embassy official said.
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