Monday, October 16, 2006

bbc pleased about conversions in india

oct 16th, 2006

let's see, when these people convert to christism, they are converting to the ideology that:

-- invented racism and skin-color based discrimination
-- invented apartheid
-- invented and perfected slavery and terrible oppression of black people
-- murdered millions in two world wars
-- murdered at least 100 million indigenous people in australia, the americas, asia and africa
-- stole at least $100 trillion from the aforesaid indigenous people
-- created a reign of terror in goa, torturing and murdering fthousands of indians
-- has the dalit converts as their water-carriers, servants and coolies in india, buries them in separate cemeteries, forces them to sit in different pews in churches, and has exactly one dalit in a position of power after a few hundred years of conversion activities

yes, fat lot of respect dalits are going to get in this ideology. conversion isn't the answer, it's self-improvement. if you are, in your own mind, a third-rate person, the christists will be happy to exploit you and keep you a third-rate person. if you are not a third-rate person, nobody in hinduism is going to treat you as one, either.

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bly243001 said...

Humiliation of napunsak hindus continues

Desecration of Haridwar

Nearly a dozen Samajwadi Party leaders, who had assembled at Hardwar for the national executive committee meeting, organised a roza iftar (breaking of day long fast) party at VIP Ghat on river Ganga. Apparently, holding such events at the holy site is banned.,000600030007.htm

Will hindus ever wake up?

Cacoethes said...

With reference to Nizhal Yoddha's remarks, “the ideology that:
-- invented racism and skin-color based discrimination ...
-- murdered at least 100 million indigenous people in australia, the americas, asia and africa
-- stole at least $100 trillion from the aforesaid indigenous people ... ” etc.
, I invite you to read the article:
Columbus, the Indians, and Human Progress .
It is also readily available at
Here is a very small sample from it: “Columbus wrote: As soon as I arrived in the Indies, on the first Island which I found, I took some of the natives by force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts.
“The information that Columbus wanted most was: Where is the gold? He had persuaded the king and queen of Spain to finance an expedition to the lands, the wealth, he expected would be on the other side of the Atlantic-the Indies and Asia, gold and spices...”

I am not postng the entire article here, because it is rather long.

Ghost Writer said...

Two good pieces of analysis in the papers today.
The first is Sandhya Jain on what the Afzal Guru controversy is really all about - Islamist separatism playing out in the Valley once again.
A lot of people have vented anger at the 'mercy' petitions - however no one had connected the dots to the valley yet, notice that eunuch Ghulam Nabi Azad and the two faced Faroq Abdullah are both speaking the same language- so full marks to Sandhya Jain - again!

The second is another good piece by Ashok Malik on the recent quashing on the Quack Bannerjee Commission.

Cacoethes said...

Re: Ghost Writer said... . . . another good piece by Ashok Malik on the recent quashing on the Quack Bannerjee Commission. 10/16/2006 1:39 PM"

IIRC, the Banerjee panel was originally a "committee", and was converted to a "commission" later.
The Gujarat HC had earlier ordered a stay against tabling of its report in Parliament, and the Supreme Court (July 3, 2006) had upheld the stay. The HC has now held the appointment of the Banerjee Commission to be illegal. Does it not follow that the deliberations held by the Banerjee "Commission" were also illegal? Mr. Banerjee is a retired judge, and must have been aware of the illegality of his "commission" and its working. Is he not liable for his illegal actions? Specifically because the "inquiry" conducted by him and the report(s) had the effect of interfering with and thwarting the course of justice. If he has committed illegalities, Mr. Banerjee cannot be allowed to go scot free. I am a layman where law is concerned, but I think a "retired" judge does not have the protections (and powers) of a sitting judge -- even if he is given a commission, unless it be a court-appointed commission. Moreover, the "commission" has been declared illegal by the HC, and it would, therefore, appear that Mr. Banerjee cannot invoke any protection that might be available for commissions. Legal experts should look into this.

Cacoethes said...

Adding to my earlier post. The following article, Who Is Judging the Judge? regarding "federal judges" in USA, is interesting. How does the situation compare with that in India?

Opening paragraphs of the article: “Federal judges, like Congressmen, federal agency heads and even US presidents, sometimes take actions believed by other government officials, the public and the press to be outrageous, unethical or even criminal.
The difference for alleged victims and others complaining about federal jurists’ behavior, as opposed to other officials’ behavior, is striking. Congressmen, agency heads and presidents are not appointed to their jobs for life. Federal judges are. And justices of the US Supreme Court are not even bound by the ethics code that other federal judges are. Usually, any federal jurist can be removed only by the incredibly complex and difficult Congressional impeachment process.”
[emphasis added]