Sunday, April 09, 2006

more no-go areas for hindus in india

apr 9th

read the report carefully: where mohammedans have become the majority, or even numerous, hindus are not allowed.

more mini-pakistans coming up all over.

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7 comments:

KapiDhwaja said...

Here is something heart-rending. Regarding brutal torture of captured Indian Army soldiers during Kargil war by the Pakistanis. There is a link at the bottom of the article to lend your support to the aggrieved father of the tortured, slain soldier.

Punish torturers of Capt Kalia

EkSh00nyaSh00nya said...

Came across this article in IE:

VHP reconverts 342 to Hinduism

Link:http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=65846

And then some noble soul from Kuwait posted this comment in response:

"Conversion should be banned, but re-conversion should be permitted" - VHP's slogan seems to be akin the Islamic Presentation Committee's views in the Middle East. Justice to one should be justice to all, otherwise justice to none should be justice to all. Hinduism is nothing more than a way of life. It isn't a relegion based on universal relegious parameters. Hinduism is more a philosophy to be followed. The philosophy did not loose its essence over the years in accepting Christianity into its fold. On the other hand the peace, light and truth highlighted in the vedas was discovered in Christ who said "I am the way, the truth and the life". Mr. Singhal and his VHP, Bajrang Dal team under the saffron flag of BJP, acting as protectist of a way of life inbedded in the lives of the Indians, are playing spoil sport for their personal gains. Hope the Indian Judiciary will uphold the constitution get the law cracking for all. The Modi of Gujarat or the Jayalalitha of TN or the Lalu as the former CM of Bihar are no good examples to be followed. The VHP-Bajrangdal-RS-BJP combine following the same ideals of the afore CM's will ultimately lick humble dust.

Posted by: Dr.Thomas Thankachan, Kuwait, 10-04-2006 at 1757 hours IST

So I guess, now these enlightened personas will pontificate on whether Hinduism is a religion or not, so that his brethren (missionaries from abroad and inside India) can get on with the task of leading us heathens and pagans to the 'real' religion-- great!!!!

iamfordemocracy said...

Like it or not, the poachers will try every trick to denigrate hinduism and try to destroy it. There is no point in criticising them for that.

Hinduism must be defined. In this respect, I wonder whether Shanakaracharya or other swamis, or Tirupati or BJP or RSS or whoever, are doing anything constructive at all. If they aren't doing anything, is it their mistake, not of Christians or Muslims or communists.

someone said...

I wonder how Muslims would react if they weren't allowed to carry a procession in Saudi Arabia.

averageindian said...

Friends,

There is a problem across Hindus society and not isolated to one group, be it swamijis, be it a particular cast, etc. -- we are in a state of disarray.

I am reminded of Bhisma's advice to Yudhistra of Dharma (which Sri Krishna asks him to detail). The advices are:

Follow your Dharma (even before praying to God).

Do not forget your mother, no matter what.

Have complete faith and belief in your fore-fathers, ancestors and trust thier words and teachings.

Last but not the least, never forget Adi Narayana, even an instant a day in thought of the Brahman will remove all your sins and sorrows (hence the Vishnu Sahasaranamam by Sri Adi Sankara).

IMHO, in all this the one thing that is the most important is the belief, that our own cannot be wrong, that our values are time-honored, that our society far from perfect was better than all others put together, our principles of tolerance, justice, liberty, freedom are inherently enshrined in our teachings and cultural ethos -- if we are proud to be a part of a culture and civilization then no evil power can shake that edifice. Let us start by pledging our own small efforts in transformation, it will have a positive infectious effect. Let us also help one another in this social transformation, where the bastardized practices (mutations created by years of humiliating subjugation, assimilation of unwanted and barbaric values, and a servile unquestioning acceptance of all things foreign as superior to our own) can be jettisoned, and build a support system to help all embrace the sublime values of Sanatana Dharma; let us make a begining to usher in a new era of Vedic thought rennaisance, across the world -- "Vasudaiva Kudumbakkam" a fact that has been proved by Openheimer's Bradshaw Founation (www.bradshawfoundation.com).

EkSh00nyaSh00nya said...

>> ...that our values are time-honored, that our society far from perfect was better than all others put together, our principles of tolerance, justice, liberty, freedom are inherently enshrined in our teachings and cultural ethos -- ...>>

Very noble thoughts indeed, averageindian ji and yours truly appreciate you for posting them.

You are absolutely right that we were far from perfect but did we deginerate or looked down upon other cultures or religions for that matter -- NO and thats what makes Hinduism and Indian culture all encompassing (and I am not being ethno-centric -- belief in the superiority of one's own values and cultures), I should say this that with Hinduism we are not tied to a dogma or beholden to the teachings of one single God or their avattars for that matter, and theres a lot of choice and as such none of the Gurus or Swamis decide for us our personal matters like whether we should go for abortion --divorce or not.

My point is: Let 'them' (Xtians or Mozis) pontificate about how great their relagious beliefs are, we know what we are and KNOW what they are (their history or track record speaks for themselves)!

averageindian said...


My point is: Let 'them' (Xtians or Mozis) pontificate about how great their relagious beliefs are, we know what we are and KNOW what they are (their history or track record speaks for themselves)!


EkShoonyaShoonyaji,

You are absolutely right in your assertion about the track record of Sanatana Dharma vis-a-vis the organized religions. I don't think any Hindu will protest or object to any religion or thier pride in thier own reasonable beliefs but all Hindus should object and protest any denigration of Sanatana Dharma, including the criminal activity of conversion and fight if we must (internal reformation and external resistance), against the exclusive principles and values of bigots from these organized religions, that contravene our own inclusive values and believes. If we do not protect and defend our values then we all (or our children) will become like "them", over time -- the bigots will destroy all that is of value (civilizations, environment, culture/traditions, intellectual property, families, economies, etc.), over time, all in the name of "THEIR" sacred "GOD"! Me thinks, they are actually trying to accelerate the prophecy of the return of messaih -- a very dangerous consequence for all!!