the chinese are world-beaters in barbarism.
i once saw a photo of a chinese preparing soup with an aborted human foetus (probably 4-5 months old), which was recognizable as a human being, with a head, tiny limbs etc. i saw the before and after: in the 'after' the foetus had been charred into a lump of burned meat.
i found those pictures hard to deal with.
fair warning: you may find the following text, purportedly from a witness, hard to deal with. it was forwarded to me by an unknown person, so i cannot vouch for its authenticity, but i have no good reason to think this is impossible. similar things have been rumored in china for a while.
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Date: Wed, March 22, 2006 6:08 pm
I am writing this FYI.
International Human Right Volunteer
New Witness Confirms Existence of Chinese Concentration Camp, Says Organs
Removed from Live Prisoners
A former employee of Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis
Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine told The Epoch Times
during a recent interview that the Sujiatun Concentration Camp in China
was actually a part of a hospital. The concentration camp has engaged in
taking organs from Falun Gong practitioners when they were still alive
and selling the organs. Since 2001, the concentration camp has secretly
detained approximately 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners, none of whom have
been able to leave the camp alive. The hospital removed many kidneys,
livers, and corneas from the practitioners. After the organ removal, the
practitioners were thrown into an incinerator, which was converted from a
boiler. Their ashes were dumped together with burned charcoal.
Organs from Three Quarters of the 6,000 People Were Removed
Those whose organs were removed were in various states of health. Because
many of the victims were illegally detained, there was neither an arrest
warrant nor identification as to who these people actually were. Often
after their organs were removed, nobody claimed the bodies. Sometimes
their bodies were picked up by crooks who pretended to be their family
About three-quarters of the 6,000 people died after their hearts, kidneys,
corneas, or skin was removed; their bodies were then burned. This
witness, whose family member participated in the removal of Falun Gong
practitioners' organs, said that approximately 2,000 Falun Gong
practitioners remain in the hospital. She was afraid that the authorities
would kill all of them to destroy evidence. The Liaoning Provincial
Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine is located
at 49 Xuesong Road, Sujiatun, Shenyang City, Liaoning Province, China. It
was the first hospital in China to specialize in the heart, the brain,
and surrounding blood vessels. The hospital is composed of several
organizations, including the Liaoning Traditional Chinese Medicine College
Teaching Hospital and the Shenyang Thrombosis Treatment Center.
Concentration Camp Details
The hospital site is 21,087 square meters, with 17,564 square meters of
building area. It employs 460 people in 24 departments and 20 specialized
offices. Information from the Chinese government shows that the hospital
was established in December 1988, and was formerly named the Shenyang
Research Institute of Thrombosis and Liaoning Province Thrombosis
Treatment Center of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine. In June
1998, it was renamed China Traditional Medicine Thrombosis Treatment
The Chinese Business Morning View said in a story on July 4, 2004, that a
farm worker died of abnormal causes in Sujiatun, Shenyang and was later
cremated. The death certificate was provided by the Chinese Medicine
Thrombosis Treatment Center in Sujiatun. The news caused a stir in China.
A copy of the death certificate. (The Epoch Times Archives Photo)Below is
the transcript of an Epoch Times reporter's interview with the former
staff member of the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated
Chinese and Western Medicine in Sujiantun, Shenyang City. Questions were
posed by the reporter and answered by the staff member being interviewed.
Epoch Times: Did the hospital's medical staff inside the concentration
camp know about this?
Answer: This hospital has a small number of officials and some doctors
involved secretively in the operation of organ harvesting. Some other
staff in the hospital knew about this, but this is absolutely a taboo [to
talk about]. They all are afraid of being killed or courting trouble, so
they all avoid the issue. Only those highly trusted doctors could be
chosen to be the surgeons for organ harvesting operations.
ET: Were Falun Gong practitioners alive when their organs were harvested?
Did their families know about this?
Answer: Falun Gong practitioners who were imprisoned there came mostly
from Dabei Prison, Masanjia Labor Camp, and other prisons in Shenyang, or
they were Falun Gong practitioners arrested in parks or residential
homes. Because they refused to denounce Falun Gong, they were arrested
without formal warrants, and their families did not know their situation.
Many did not even have their names [recorded]. In addition, since the
Chinese authority exercises a policy of "not being responsible" for
killing Falun Gong practitioners, the death of Falun Gong practitioners
is not a very big issue for prisons. The Chinese Communist Party
persecutes Falun Gong, [but] these medical personnel were told Falun Gong
practitioners were facing death because they killed people, or they were
sentenced to death because of crimes, or they had become insane from
practicing Falun Gong.
Those Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were harvested came from
Organs harvested from live bodies are worth far more than organs taken
from dead bodies. Many Falun Gong practitioners were still alive when
their organs were taken. After their organs were cut out, some of these
people were thrown directly into the crematorium to be burnt, thus
leaving no evidence. For some others, after their organs were stolen, the
doctor sewed up the wound and asked the family or family representative
to give a signature for cremation. Family members did not know at all
that the dead had their organs taken out. Furthermore, there were some
healthy Falun Gong practitioners in prisons in other areas who were
injected—without their knowledge—with psychoactive drugs that made their
minds confused. They then were transferred to Sujiantun concentration
camp to suffer further torture, till in the end their organs were
harvested and their bodies were cremated in secret.
Among the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were harvested, some were
weak and some were healthy. Since most of them were illegally arrested,
there were no arrest warrants or identification cards. After their organs
were taken out while they were still alive, no one came to claim their
bodies; or [sometimes] people using fake identities claimed their bodies.
None of these people have come out [of the concentration camp] alive;
three-quarters of these 6,000 people have died, having their hearts,
kidneys, retinas, and skins harvested and their bodies disposed of. I
think now about 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners are still in this
hospital, and I am afraid now that the authority will destroy all
evidence and kill them.
Question: How did you know these things? Were you yourself a doctor
involved in organ harvesting?
Answer: I worked at the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of
Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, Shenyang. This is exactly where
this concentration camp is located. One of my family members was involved
in the operation to harvest Falun Gong practitioners' organs. This has
brought great pain to our family.
Question: Please tell us what you knew about.
Answer: From 2001, our hospital started to detain Falun Gong
practitioners. At the beginning, these people were detained in the
single-storey houses in the back yard of the hospital. Later, the
hospital authorities demolished the single-storey houses, and it was
unknown where in the hospital the Falun Gong practitioners were
transferred. Many staff of the hospital discussed in private that these
Falun Gong practitioners had been secretly transferred to the underground
chambers of the hospital. According to some people working inside the
hospital, the hospital has a huge system of secret underground chambers.
At the time when we went to work there, the person in charge of logistics
and purchasing in the hospital said that the quantity of disposable
sterile gloves used for operations and daily supplies that the hospital
authorities asked to be purchased had increased dramatically. The
logistics people estimated based on the scale of purchases at that time
that there were at least 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners detained in this
These Falun Gong practitioners were not detained in the 4-story building
under the in-patient department and administration at the front of the
hospital, in order to keep the hospital staff from seeing them at all. We
only occasionally saw Falun Gong practitioners being sent on a mobile
intensive care bed to the first floor for physical examinations. These
people were very weak. For the majority of the Falun Gong practitioners,
nobody knew where they were being secretly kept. While they still did not
know where these people were kept, some staff inquired to the hospital
authorities about why so much food and so many sterile gloves and daily
supplies were purchased. The hospital authorities said, "You only need to
do your job well. There is no need for you to ask any other questions."
Starting in 2001, a family member of mine participated in organ-harvesting
operations. My family member tried to keep me from knowing about this at
the beginning. The hospital authorities selected doctors they trust in
different aspects to perform the secretive operations. After a period of
time, I found that my family member was in a lot of pain, often had
nightmares, and appeared panic-stricken. After repeated inquiries, this
family member told me the truth. The leader of the hospital had asked my
family member to participate in the organ harvesting operations on Falun
Gong practitioners as early as 2001. It was 2003 when my family member
confessed. A few years after, my family member felt so much pain from
participating in this incident that it was impossible to continue with
the evildoing. My family member decided to go abroad to get away from
My family member also told me: "you don't understand my suffering; those
Falun Gong practitioners were alive. It might be easier for me if they
were dead, but they were alive."
Question: Were there any other doctors from the hospital taking part in
the operations of cutting out Falun Gong practitioners' organs?
Answer: I know there were some. All these things have been carried out
secretly. Many doctors at our hospital involved were practicum doctors
transferred from other hospitals. Because the government does not want to
be responsible for Falun Gong practitioners' bodies and lives, their
lives are treated as garbage by the regime, and their bodies were used in
experiments by new doctors doing their practitcums.
Many doctors came and left the hospital because they suffered a lot after
having been involved in these kinds of things. They either requested to
be transferred to other places, or changed their names. Some might have
been killed to eliminate the evidence, their identity files were taken
out from the hospital's filing system, or their names were changed.
Nobody knows where the doctors have gone.
The hospital staff all know that the rear part of the hospital is
forbidden. It is always watched. The staff avoids talking about the
Question: It is said the hospital is equipped with an incinerator. The
person whose organs were removed will be burned when he or she is still
alive. Is that true?
Answer: The employees in our hospital call this place "the incinerator."
Actually, it is a boiler room. Some poor farmers from nearby places were
hired to work in the boiler room. They were penniless when they first
came here. But they could scrape up some watches, finger rings,
necklaces, and so on. The amount is not small. It is said by the
employees in the hospital these jewelry and watches were collected from
the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs had been removed when they were
about to be thrown in the boiler to be burned. It is also said by the
employees in the hospital, some were still alive when being thrown into
Question: Do they get injection of anesthetic when in surgery?
Answer: Yes. There is a cap to the anesthetic quantity used in mainland
China's hospitals. Generally, the supply of anesthetic was determined
according to the accommodation of the hospital. To the public, the number
of patients in our care appears to be very small, and publicly reported
number of surgical procedures performed is quite low. But the equipment
and articles used in surgery are abundant. Because the amount of
anesthetic is limited, these secret surgeries could not use the normal
anesthetic doses. In order to save anesthetic, they economized on the
anesthetic used in surgeries on these Falun Gong practitioners. The
amount of anesthetic used was very small. However, many whose organs were
removed were still alive. You can imagine the pain suffered by the Falun
Gong practitioners whose organs were removed.
Question: Are there any survivors among the 6,000 people detained since
2001? Answer: Nobody has come out alive. The number of them gets smaller
and smaller. The Falun Gong practitioners detained at Sujiatun are fewer
now than before. But I believe that the sin of removing the organs of the
Falun Gong practitioners is still continuing.
Question: Where are these organs usually sold to? Do the higher
authorities in the government know about this?
Answer: They are mainly sold to Thailand, but I believe they are also sold
to other regions of the world. Nowadays, there are many patients in China
who need human skin, corneas, and kidneys for organ transplant surgeries.
Many patients have to wait in line to purchase organs. Currently, a
kidney can be sold up to the price of 30,000 to 100,000 U.S. dollars. The
profit from selling organs is simply too great. The people who benefit
from this are not only the top leaders of hospitals and the officials of
the Chinese Communist Party's Heath Department. This is a crime present
across the entire nation. People ranging from government officials to
doctors to organ sellers are all involved in this and are profiting
Question: Why did they target Falun Gong practitioners as the source of
organs? Answer: Because relatives of many Falun Gong practitioners don't
even know that their family members were arrested. So if the Falun Gong
practitioners are killed, there will be no one to come and claim their
dead bodies. Question: Why did you want to expose this? This may bring
great danger to you. Answer: I know that there are many Falun Gong
practitioners who are currently detained at the hospital. I would like to
expose this to the international community, so those who are not yet
killed can be saved. Also, I would like to expose this as an atonement
for my family.
I am not a Falun Gong practitioner. But as a former staff member of the
hospital, I have the responsibility to expose the truth, and let the world
to save those Falun Gong practitioners who are still alive. Organs of
some Falun Gong practitioners are still living on patients' bodies. I
would like to call on all society to pay attention to this issue and stop
this shocking crime.
By Ji Da
Mar 17, 2006