Saturday, March 18, 2006

abu ghraib prisoner's tale a hoax

mar 18th

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/18/international/middleeast/18ghraib.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

similarly the famed portrait of a mohammedan, one ansari, begging with folded hands for his life in gujarat during the riots.

that apparently was a posed fake, and i think he admitted it too. but he has become the poster boy of the 'seculars'.

the amount of lying done by the 'seculars' is astonishing. of course, all in a good cause: that of the sino-mohammedan axis.

the real photos of 59 incinerated hindu women and children in godhra were never shown at all. why, that would be 'communal'.

the real photos of the 7 hindus ambushed and sliced to death by mohammedans at maraad beach near calicut were also never shown.


8 comments:

iamfordemocracy said...

I don't understand this. You write "the real photos of 59 incinerated hindu women and children in godhra were never shown at all. ".

Who should show them?

Remember, for protests against the cartoons, someone bought/painted flags of Denmark. There is a party BJP) that says it looks after Hindu interests. There are dozens of ancillary organizations claiming to do that. Surely, BJP knows how to plant stories in media, paid or otherwise. Surely, these organizations know something about staging protests.

Do you really expect CPM or congress to take up the cause of Godhra victims? Tell us.

nizhal yoddha said...

'iamdemocracy' should rename himself as 'itsthebjpsfault'.

he has discovered the solution to all of india's problems: just blame the bjp, and everything will be all right.

i am reminded of something from a sherlock holmes story. holmes, feverish and delirious, asks watson if he has some change. he borrows the change and carefully puts half into his left pocket and half into his rick pocket. and then says "there, now. we have done our bit to balance the world". this is exactly what iamdemocracy does.

stop whining so much, and actually *d9* something, fellow!

in a previous post, he was instructing me on what i should do. i returned the favor and told him to go convince 10 people every week about how hindus are being screwed by the fascist-marxist-nehruvian stalinist combin. have you done that, iamdemocracy?

complacent, armchair critics and monday-morning quarterbacks there are in plenty. if he did anything more than sit on his butt and piss and moan i'd take him more seriously.

no, its not the bjp's fault, it's *your* fault.

it's your fault that you have not arranged for a boycott of the leftist media. it's your fault that you dont understand that there is such a thing as fairness in media which can be enforced by incensed citizenry.

Anonymous said...

Good catch xmatrix, I posted that on my blog and some other related stories. Even though Indian media will ignore this story COMPLETELY, I couldn't help noticing how Hindu-Christians in India have been brainwashed and broughtup to believe that they are "Oreos" - brown on outside and white on inside and that they should fulfill their white masters' wishes.

-Sage

iamfordemocracy said...

Rajeev and others, I asked two questions in my first comment. Who should show Godhra pictures? Do you really expect CPM/cong to take up the Hindu cause?

Instead of answering these questions, you are attacking me. That will not serve much purpose.

I suggest Congress and CPM do their politics in an efficient, competent, combative way, BJP doesn't.... If you don't agree, please tell me why. (no value judgements please. BJP may be a party of saints, and Congress of Shaitans. BJP won't be voted to power unless it convinces Majority to believe that and Majority does not believe that at the moment).

non-carborundum said...

Iamfordemocracy,

I think the BJP / RSS is the only hope Hindus have got.

There are two kinds of attack mounted on the BJP:-

1. The BJP is bad since it is 'communal' and acts only in the interests of Hindus.

2. The BJP is bad since it does not do much as it should for Hindus.

The latter is a more cleverly disguised
approach isn't it?

One malafide intention - two approaches.

The BJP could do more for Hindus though even if half of the Hindu Electorate voted for them, because in the end that is what democracy is and you're for it.

iamfordemocracy said...

Non Carb, 80% of voters and just one party!! The rest of the parties fighting for the 20% of the pie. Must have been much easier for BJP than it appears to be.

BJP could do 'more' for Hindus!! If only they did something. (For one example, give the control of temple back to Hindus.) Has BJP done anything for Hindus? List a few things please.

non-carborundum said...

Demos Cratos,

BJP has within its limitations(seats in parliament) always acted in National Interest.

They have been perhaps the only party to raise issues like the sheer numbers of Bangladeshi Muslims entering the country.

They have been the only party to raise objections against the proposed counting of minorities(muslims) in the armed forces.

And I'll tell you one thing they didn't do - put Shankaracharya in Jail.

You put the Congress,CPM and the BJP in the same plane.

Rather than ridiculing the BJP, it would be better if you came up with some constructive plan. The BJP's all that Hindus have got at the moment and the only option is to empower it more so that it would not be dependent on treacherous alliances which essentially force a dilution of the Hindutva stance.

EkSh00nyaSh00nya said...

I said...."phelomena.,you are Phenomenal".>>

Kalyani ji, ROTFLMAO, its gr8!

All these converts-neo or otherwise--do exhibit some kinda 'superiority' complex regarding Hindus or Hinduism.

And u know what, this kinda thing is not limited to these Xtians converts only, u can find it while interacting with the followers of other religions too.

Someone I know narrated this incident 2 me:

The guy was @ the home of a Sikh family--where he alongwith others were watchin Rajesh Khanna's old movie 'Anurodh' (early 70s) and if u have watched it, u'll remember that one of the characters-poet played by late Vinod Mehra is suffering 4m some kinda serious ailment and is staying with his Sikh friend and his wife--played by Asrani and late Sh Ashok Kumar's daughter Preeti (forgot her last name)--when his (Vinod's) Ma--played by late Smt Nirupa Roy--goes 2 pray 4 the well-being of her son, before the portrait of Guru Nanak in other room, and in the scene the portrait had a 'tikka' on Guru Nanak's forehead, and suddenly the Sikh lady of the house (the family my aquaintance was with) comes down heavy on the film maker as 2 why r they showing 'tikka' on Guru Nanak's forehead as we (meaning Sikhism) doesn't permit this kinda thing--and my friend is quite taken aback by this kinda outburst and felt really uncomfortable watching the rest of the movie. It was as if some kinda blasphemy had been committed by the film-maker (co-incidentally a very good one indeed--Sh Shakti Samanta)!

Also, as Hindus keep on chanting the mantra that Sikhs are like brothers 2 Hindus, well unfortunatley the other side doesn't think along the same lines.

Remember, in the 80s when terrorism in Punjab was at its peak, the Hindus were chanting the same mantra and then people like that old geezer, Gandi-Nehru dynasty boot-licker,peddler of porn and boozer 2 boot Khushwant Singh (I m not sure if he is still around--he must be around 90 now) had come down heavily on this idea and had strongly maintained that Sikhs always had a separate identity and Sikhism was in no way, related to Hinduism.

Well, 2 guys like Khushwant Singh my retort: if u want 2 maintain ur separate identity, so b it.

Why the Hindus have 2 beg or literally fall on their knees is totally outta my mind.

Also, regarding 84 riots--what happened in Delhi and other places is a shame and a blot on Indian history, the talk is about compensation 4 the Sikh victims. My thought, sure they should be compensated there r no 2 ways about it, but hey just give a thought 2 all those innocent victims--Hindus or Sikhs--whom the terrorist assassinated in cold blood (in Punjab & elsewhere), what about compensation 4 them?

All the while the masterminds--like Wassan Singh Jaffarwal--of all these terrorist activities were enjoying the hospitality of ISI and the Pak govt. and the terrorists who did the 'ground-work' use 2 flee 2 western nations like UK (Southall), Canada (Vancouver), or even US (Fresno CA) and then in these countries their rich financial backers like Dr Gurmeet Singh Aulakh (in US) or the self-styled President or PM of Khalistan Jagat Jit Singh Chauhan (in UK) use 2 have the govt of these nations pass resolutions condemning India 4 committing 'atrocities' on its Sikh minority.

Much water has flown under the bridge, and now these same nations r coming 2 India 2 learn counter insurgency techniques (eg agencies 4m other nations training at Counter Insurgency and Warfare school in Mizoram), makes me smirk--the shoe is on the other foot I guess now or is it they suffer 4m some kind of amnesia--no idea!!!!

Regarding Jagat Jit Sigh Chauhan, if u recall a couple of years back he came 2 India, since his entry was banned by the Indian Govt, the guy had 2 literally beg to be allowed entry, after Akali leader Prakash Singh Badal, who happens 2 b a good friend of A B Vajpayee, pleaded on his behalf with the govt and then only after Chauhan had given his undertaking reaffirming his faith (???) in the sovereignity of India and its constitution was he allowed 2 enter India. Once the guy lands in India, he mouths something like 'We r gonna work towards Khalistaan within the farmework of Indian constitution'--all a face-saving measure--4m those people 2 whom the likes of Chauhan had taken 4 a ride (up the garden path) and a 'hogwash' 2 an acute political observer!