Saturday, September 03, 2005

so where are the vultures?

sept 3rd

i didnt see huge numbers of christist vulture-preachers descending on new orleans offering food, shelter and succor and 'saving' the starving population, which is almost 100% christian. did you see them? i bet you didnt.

so where is benny hinn? pat robertson? ron watts? sister nirmala? sleeping comfortably in climate-controlled bedrooms, surely.

as jethro tull says in 'thick as a brick', 'where was biggles when you needed him last night? where were the sportsmen, who always pull you through?'

it just goes to show yet again, this evangelism business is a racket to make money. they are not bothered about poor christians, especially blacks. they have demonstrated this uncaringness before when watts and south central LA burned; when there were race riots in chicago; in the bombed-out sections of the bronx; when catholic priests were helping hutus massacre tutsis in rwanda (google 'war crimes' and 'rwanda': several were sentenced for crimes against humanity).

just like the anti-abortionists are only worried about unborn babies; once the baby is born, they dont come forward to adopt them.

here they are only worried about converting the non-christist. once you are converted, you are on your own, baby.

hypocrisy to the nth degree.

btw, i am getting seriously worried about american imperial overstretch. this is the sort of thing that paul kennedy talked about in'the decline and fall of the great powers'.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

The evangelists are the core constituency of the Republican party. The republican party is the all white(stinking rich) party which doesnt care about blacks because they invariably support progrssive democrats. Then there is the senseless constituency of Indian americans ( particularly the stinking rich doctors and the fake men like Bobby Jindal) , and many of the readers of this blog and perhaps the blogger himself, who support the fake conservative republican party or have an open mind about supporting republicans.
one should appreciate the blacks of this country, they forgave the southern democratic(conservative) senators, who blocked civil rights legislation and then have rewarded the democratic party for supporting the civil rights movement by faithfully voting for them from then on. and we have our Indian -Americans who think that they are more 'white' than the white men themselves, while reaping every benefit of the civil rights and equality they are feeding the same philosophy and thought process(conserative) that sparked the inequality and segregation. I pity all such people

Shankar said...

Rajeev, these frockling vultures understand and respect only violence. reason why they never try to 'harvest souls in middle east. In hurricane areas, these Niramala-type frocklings would be thoroughly bashed-up, if they try to propogate like they do in our tribal areas. These frockling parasites get nurtured only by anti-national pseudo-seculars and cryto greedy asses like Samuel reddy in our country.

With power and strength, we will have peace.

san said...

Some kid might be branded a "looter" for grabbing a schoolbus and rescuing a crowd of people:
http://www.newschannel5.tv/2005/9/1/4255/Taking-refuge-in-the-Astrodome


Meanwhile Halliburton bags the reconstruction contract for Mississippi:
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3335685

Hmm, well at least they kept it in the family. ;)

If this was India, "non-Prime Minister" Sonia would have awarded it to Octavio Quattrocchi or Enron.

san said...

Here's a link to a video with celebrities Mike Meyers (comedian) and Kanye West (singer) doing fundraising:

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Kayne-West-Bush-Black-People.wmv

Kanye West departs from the teleprompter script and begins condemning George Bush, while Mike Meyers nervously tries to go on.

Ouch!

NBC issued a disclaimer to distance themselves from Kanye West's statements, while Comcast is actually censoring the periodically repeating CNN Headline News coverage, by continually deleting its news reports on Kanye West's statements.

As you guys say, there's a legitimate dissatisfaction with the way the relief has gone.

But I still think that various selfish political elements will try to exploit this tragedy for their own ends.

san said...

The head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency is a political appointee. This guy was apparently hired by Bush after being fired from his last job as the head of the National Arabian Horse Association:
http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=100857

Sounds like the chickens of cronyism are coming home to roost. :(

Anonymous said...

This might be an AMAZING TIME to convert African Americans to Hinduism. Why not?

Let's face it--the blacks got stabbed in the back by whites. Let's start by converting them to our religion

san said...

Don't be silly, that's very opportunistic, just like what Christian & Muslim proselytizers do. Notice that Jews never canvas people to convert to judaism. A wise example to emulate.

san said...

Here's a videoclip of news anchors Geraldo Rivera and Shepard Smith from Fox losing their calm and saying the situation was not being looked after:

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hannity-Colmes-Smith-Rivera-freak-in-NO.wmv

Some US Evangelist is claiming that the Katrina disaster is God's divine punishment upon a 'Wicked City', citing its tolerance of homosexuals and lascivious culture:

http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html

Hmm, reminds me of what Falwell said about 9/11.

Anonymous Abraham said...

AFAIK, most relief organizations including Pat Robertson's and Benny Hinn's are already in Louisiana and Texas. Besides, NOLA was under "martial law" and not open to public. While it is true that FEMA has not done a great job, the perceived difference is political, not racial - the interview of Mississippi Gov (Rep) and the Louisiana Gov (Dem) come to mind. Part of the reason has to do with the old boy network that pervades NOLA - so the blame cannot be laid on FEMA alone.

Interestingly, http://www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=6241 has a list of religious charities organizing relief for Katrina victims. Conspicuous by their absence are Hindu organizations in America. (I am sure there are efforts underway in temples)

san said...

I have to admit, that left-wing whining New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin is looking a bit like W.Bengal's whining Jyoti Basu who savaged the BJP central govt for not sufficiently helping Calcutta when it was hit by hurricane damage.

Look at this picture of all the hundreds of city schoolbuses that the mayor left for the hurricane to destroy:
http://www.redstate.org/redhot#3281

The fool could have used them to remove many poor people from the hurricane's path in advance, instead of later screaming about how impoverished underclass people were left to die because couldn't afford transportation.

What's the old saying -- "Water, water, everywhere, but not a drop to drink"

That saying certainly rings true right now, in more ways than one.

Leftists, they remind me of the story of The Grasshopper and the Ant because they always screw things up. And because of it, they've become experts at passing the blame onto others. I agree that the federal govt has been unforgivably slow in its response to this catastrophe. But the mayor of New Orleans should before all others have been aware that his town is below sea level, and should have had good emergency management plans in place well in advance, to handle this type of situation. It's his bloody town. It's not like the hurricane snuck up on them overnight.

Anonymous said...

the GOP spin point about the buses is ludicrous. has anyone been in a school bus.

I can't beleive that you gooper whores quicky forget that GOP armed Pakistan and sat idly by while tens of thousands of Indians were slaughtered.

Anonymous said...

Here are some "Hindu" Organizations involved in relief operations.
Just because some website chooses/does not achknowledge them does not mean that they are not helping.

http://www.idrf.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Hnnews&file=article&sid=170
http://www.vhp-america.org/dynamic_includes/downloads/katrina/appeal.pdf
http://www.sewausa.org/resources/Sewa_katrina_flier_2005.pdf


I am sure there are more. I could get these within five minutes. I wonder about the ethics of Ethics Daily. Which fine secular organisation runs this site? Go to their website and find out for yourself. Now, you can't expect them to include heathen organisations and forces of darkness, can you? I mean they are not even children of Abraham(Sic!) :)

san said...

Anonymouth, I'm perfectly aware of what happened in the 1980s. The fact is that while we can't undo the past, it's important for India that the US has a president who's tough on China and Islamist terrorism while also not being an anti-outsourcing protectionist. You Atlanticist liberal whores haven't done any better in dismantling Pakistani terror camps, although you're big on sending in "human rights activists" to hamstring Indian security forces so that more slaughter can occur.

And the criticism of New Orleans mayor Jyoti Basu still stands -- why didn't he have a disaster plan in place, when the city is obviously below sea level, sitting between a river and a lake? Why didn't he better utilize his local infrastructure (eg. bus fleet) to get more people the hell out of town, rather than merely keeping his fingers crossed? They shouldn't be blindly calling the feds racists, when they as the first line of defense were blatantly negligent.

And that Congressional Black Squawkus -- they're only piping up now. Why weren't they voicing alarm for the 80% African-American city in advance of the hurricane?

At least a Louisiana desi like GOP Congressman Bobby Jindal has played a constructive role, rather than foaming at the mouth:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1215521.cms

http://www.indiadaily.com/breaking_news/43938.asp

http://jindal.house.gov/

He's doing a lot better than that pompous race-baiting loudmouth Jesse Jackson. Has Jackson actually managed to hold a public office yet, where he can actually have some responsibility? Or is he like Sonia Gandhi, always campaigning for elections, but never actually holding a position where he's accountable to constituents? Another fool who wants to start their first job at the top, as leader of the nation.

Anonymous Abraham said...

Just because some website chooses/does not achknowledge them does not mean that they are not helping

I will remember that next time when I read pseudo-articles from pseudo-historians claiming that the "minorities" in India are not "patriotic" because "they did not do XYZ".

Now, you can't expect them to include heathen organisations and forces of darkness

I didn't expect them to (only because nobody told them to include), but even CNN's site (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/katrina/help.center/) does not list any of your organizations. Or is the "help" limited to helping Indians/Hindus only?

san said...

Abraham, I'm not sure what the point of your noise is, other than to make noise. If you feel that Hindus in the US aren't pulling their weight in contributing to the Katrina disaster, then say so explicitly. No need for you to beat around the bush, since that's exactly what you're trying to say. I'm contributing through my workplace, but may I ask what you're contributing, or are you just flexing your mouth muscles and living vicariously through others?

Anonymous said...

Anonymouth, I'm perfectly aware of what happened in the 1980s.

I'm sure the relatives of the tens of thousands who died in the ISI inspired campagins of terror share your pain.


The fact is that while we can't undo the past, it's important for India that the US has a president who's tough on China and Islamist terrorism


Which President is that? The one who thinks Mushraff is a a key force in the 'war on terror'? Or the one who has no qualms about the Treasury selling hundreds of billions of bonds/notes to the Chinese?

Anonymous Abraham said...

san,

If the Shadow Warrior can ask in articles what contributions the minorities in India made to various catastrophes, I am entitled too. I was curious as to why there was no article from him suggesting that all Indian Americans contribute to Hurricane Katarina relief.

I was not asking anyone for a record of their contributions. My other point is to bring out the fact that as Hindus/Indians it would be nice if the listed charities at least got a mention in some website as helping the Hurricane Katarina victims. I don't understand why the Islamic Charities can be listed on websites but not the Hindu/Indian ones. We need to market ourselves better.

san said...

Anonymouth, I agree that the Reagan admin's machiavellian abetment of ISI-jihadism in SouthAsia and it's denial-policy on Pakistan's nuclearization has been the source of much suffering in India. I would point out that the Chinese role in the jihad and the nuclearization was not benign either. What I am pointing out is that in the current situation where beggars can't be choosers, we have to go with whatever allies we can find. Given that the pluralistic Americans are more reliable than the Maoist Mongol Warlords in Beijing, the choice is obvious. As for Republicans versus Democranks, I would say that the Dems are more likely to follow an appeasement policy towards China and Islamism, while focusing on building up the obsolete NATO to flog the dead horse of Soviet Communism, since the Democrats are Atlanticist-first on their foreign policy outlook.

Anonymous said...

My other point is to bring out the fact that as Hindus/Indians it would be nice if the listed charities at least got a mention in some website as helping the Hurricane Katarina victims.

If the idea is to help, then there is no need to market who is the Mahatma, or to dovetail this help into something else. But we understand the current age politics, and understandably the secularism and christianity has nothing to do with it :). To come to your point, Charity begins at home. These people must be trained at home for the hindu identity. That is usually not a focus in hinduism, but for new requirements of marketing. SO people are not as familliar to market something which shouldn't be. That is the issue here, why inspite of all noise on secularism, hindu identity organizations would struggle. Change the identity in terms of focus, they would compete well in short time.

Anonymous said...

I didn't expect them to (only because nobody told them to include), but even CNN's site (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/katrina/help.center/) does not list any of your organizations. Or is the "help" limited to helping Indians/Hindus only?

So the help should be limited to orgs listed by CNN? You are ofcourse "limited to help" by people listed on CNN. Doesn't mean everyone else has to get it's toe CNN's line. If there are some charities who are working quitely behind the scene without any expectation of pubilicity or soul-harvesting missions, more power to them.