Tuesday, October 23, 2007

why bobby jindal converted (clever boy, he is!)

oct 23rd, 2007

first, a masterpiece of political writing by jindal! he is a clever boy, after all, rhodes scholar and what not. see how he carefully does not say anything really obviously nasty about hinduism? why? because idiot 'secular' hindu indian-americans, he knew, would be his principal campaign-contributors! once he got their money and their support, he could spit on them, he knew (and he has demonstrated and will demonstrate). for instance, last year when bush with much hoopla celebrated diwali in the white house, neither bush nor his top sideys showed up, nor did jindal. i can guarantee the same this year as well. jindal doesn't need the hindus any more.

second, his entire rationale for converting is based on a pseudo-historical event, ie. the alleged life of jesus (and also on his allegation that the bible is an unchanged text from jesus' times). well, both are wrong -- and have been proven so emphatically. there was no jesus, and the bible is a hodge-podge of invention by various monks who added their own rhetorical flourishes as they transcribed it; anyway, the bible is hugely self-contradictory, and its base is the vindictive jihad-script of some dyspeptic individual, probably paul (aka saul the criminal).

third, interesting how conversion has ruined the jindal family's relationships. this is exactly what happens in india too when somebody is induced to convert: it destroys the family. precisely what the vulture christists want -- more atomized, support-less individuals that they can prey on.

fourth, the clear rice-christist message that comes through. jindal converted not because there was any great conviction on his part -- the little tear-jerkers about the girl who wanted to go to the supreme court, and the black and white film notwithstanding. jindal converted because, living in the racist and bigoted deep south, he, as an ambitious politician, knew that he wouldn't get ahead unless he adopted the majority religion. this is precisely what happens in semitic-cultured countries -- the majority oppresses the minorities. in india, of course, it is the exact opposite: the minorities oppress the majority.

so will jindal and his convert wife supriya convert *out* of christism is someone provides proof that his belief in these two events are completely wrong? yes, i believe if hindus become rich and powerful within jindal's lifetime (ie in the next fifty years) this opportunist will suddenly 'discover' his hindu roots and return to hinduism with much fanfare. or perhaps his 3-year-old child will. that would be poetic justice.

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From: K




Sundar Lal Bahuguna said...

christian, are you christians, inluding jindal, have no better thoughts than the putrid waste of gutter?

monkeys, cows, baboons these are all manifestations of simple, innocent ways in which the almighty shows itself, and it is this form that we respect. so please dont talk nonsense about animals

if mahabharata could be understood by mentally maimed criminals like you and jindal, we would not have so many disoriented persons in our midst. so work a little harder

Sudarshan said...

This Jindal guy is too smart to be believe all that stuff about Jesus's birth and rising from the dead. if today some married woman said that she was pregnant (by God, no less) she would be led off (gently) to the nearest shrink. And suppose an executive of some organization was to say one morning, its OK folks, the Boss's corpse is missing because after you guys left me alone with the dead body, he woke up and said, Hey Peter, you be the boss now, I'm going off to my dad's; then he took off in a UFO. I'm sure he would be led off (not so gently) to the nearest Chowki.

Shahryar said...

You are not supposed to have loyalty to your family, only to Mother Church, after you accept Jesus as your god --- here are the biblical references:

Excerpt from Matthew
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Shahryar said...

It seems our correspondent Christian claims to be a "Mythbuster" --- his blog is http://mythsbuster.blogspot.com/

It is apparent from his post that he is totally ignorant of the contents of the epic Mahabharata.

One wonders if he has ever read the Big Idiotic Book of Lies & E rrors!

witan said...

Nizhal Yodha,
I. Why waste blog space and bandwidth on posts like that of "Christian"? IMHO it should never have been allowed.
II. The article published now (October 007) in "America, The National Catholic Weekly" is an excerpt from Jindal's ""Has Ecumenism Made Evangelism Irrelevant?" published in "America" on 31 July 1993. Therefore, it is probably a Bowdlerized version, and it is not certain that that he did not say "anything really obviously nasty about hinduism" in his original article.

karyakarta92 said...

Big Idiotic Book of Lies & Errors.
Thanks for that acronym, Shahryar!

karyakarta92 said...

Nice article on the foolishness of Indians celebrating his victory:

"Bobby Jindal, who? "

-Anuradha Dutt (The Pioneer)

There's nothing about the new Louisiana Governor that's Indian. Why celebrate his win?

In a nation of immigrants, it is completely legitimate that Mr Bobby Jindal, of Punjabi origin, should have been elected Governor of the American State of Louisiana. Rather, it is somewhat late in the day for a representative of the largely well-educated and affluent Indian community to have made a mark in politics, underlining the dominance of the US by the White ruling elite that shapes policies, and lays down the parameters for civilised existence.

Then, it is only to be expected that Mr Jindal fit perfectly into this social matrix, having changed his name from Piyush to Bobby, after a character in The Brady Bunch, a popular television show; and embraced Christianity in his teens. These actions expose his pronounced eagerness to be accepted by the White Christian population of the US by burying his ethnicity. Whatever else he may be, he is not the 'other'.

For all purposes, Mr Jindal is an all-American church-going family man, parroting the ultra-conservative jargon of the Republican Party to which he belongs. He thus wants Biblical view of creationism to be taught in place of Darwinian theory of evolution in public schools; supports a ban on abortion, and opposes affirmative action and laws against hate crimes. There is really little to distinguish him from his boss, US President George W Bush.

In contrast, most Indian immigrants are proud of their origins and culture, making it a point to celebrate their religious festivals with fervour, and instil the love for their antecedents in their progeny. But they also retain the secular temper of their motherland, and its respect for pluralism in race, religion and lifestyle.

Mr Jindal's triumph is his alone, and not shared by the majority of American Indians, who support the liberal Democratic Party. Mr Toby Chaudhury, spokesman of the Indian American Leadership Initiative (IALI), which sides with the Democrats, observes that Mr Jindal may have cornered "the Mother Teresa vote but Mahatma Gandhi certainly would have opposed him on principle". Little wonder that he should have become governor of a backward State, with a meagre Indian population of less than 10,000. The fact that he is the first Indian member of the Republican Party to have risen this high indicates that he has, like a chameleon, succeeded in transmuting his identity and shedding his affiliation with the country of his origin.

A local paper, the Times-Picayune, qualifies Mr Jindal's achievement by its cryptic remark that his victory did not quite make the Indo-American community delirious with joy. And that, clearly, is because Louisiana does not figure in its scheme of things, being peripheral to its concerns. Most Indians, being tolerant, are also wary of his conservative views like, for instance, his espousal of Christian prayers in school. The bulk of the people really celebrating his victory are in his village Khanpur and his biradri in Punjab. For, his election opens up the doors of opportunity to them as they feel that it might be easier now for them to emigrate to the US. Whether an influx from Punjab will actually occur in the wake of his elevation to Louisiana Governor is a matter of surmise. Given the US's fear of South Asians after the 9/11 attacks on New York, it is unlikely that immigration rules will be relaxed.

Some, like one of his aunts, see a future President in Mr Jindal - an unwelcome proposition for Americans other than Indians. Lest his brethren back in his village go overboard in their jubilation over his victory, they need to remember these sobering facts. One, Mr Jindal's loyalties lie with the US, not India. His parents willingly relinquished Indian citizenship for personal gain. This, unfortunately, is a matter of no relevance to the community of immigrants, who belong to no man's land, being driven by self-interest. Two, his conversion to Christianity and change of name seems to have been a calculated move, impelled by ambition and not the greater good. It is necessary to find out whether, after entering politics, he has encouraged evangelical activities in his forefathers' village. Three, his continuing links with his ancestral village may prove to be a bone of contention for India and the US if he chooses to keep a leg in both the countries, and owns land and property in Punjab. It may be pertinent to note that he is reported to be an influential member of the pro-nuclear deal camp, and may have business links.

In light of these facts, the euphoria in India, more so in the Indian media, over his victory needs to be tempered with caution.

Sundar Lal Bahuguna said...

yes, but if seeing a person of Indian origin win, other Indians, many of them of Hindu leanings, get encouraged to enter politics, then what is the problem?