Some passing thoughts on the new book on Jinnah by Jaswant Singh (which I have not read, but hope to read)
1- As a principle, any book that shows up Jawaharlal Stalin as a bungler and idiot should be welcomed by all Hindus.
2- There is a long tradition of Pakistani politicians outmaneuvering Indians (think Bhutto Papa and daughter Virgin Ironpants, Zia, General Mush etc.) – so it is safe to think the tradition started with Jinnah himself
3- The Jinnah-haters point to Direct Action Day as proof that he was communal – the Jaswant-types would like us to see the journey that took him there. This is actually very subtle and clever for Hindus. Now we can say Jinnah was a monster – and that Jawaharlal created him!
Actually Jawahar himself came to admit that he and some other congresswallahs were responsible for partition – I think he used the phrase “tired, old men” to describe how Jinnah and the British ran them ragged and they just wanted to taste sweet power in their own lifetime. The memorable words of Badshah Khan of NWFP come to mind, when he saw the plan he told Gandhi “you are throwing us to the wolves”
The partition cannot be divorced from two defining evens. Separate electorates – thanks to that “liberal” Syed Ahmed Khan. Also, the Khilafat movement, when Gandhi actually strengthened the hands of the most regressive fundamentalists amongst the Muslims by banding up with the Ali brothers –to restore the rights of some idiot-king in Turkey that the Turks did not want!
The result was Mapillah massacre of Hindus in Kerala!!!
I have always felt that Pakistan was actually created by the Muslims of UP and Bihar – who voted overwhelmingly with the League and were its core constituents. Sadly – that ideology of minority-separatism, and most of its adherents - still lives in India.
On a more serious note – I have heard the book warns of more partitions and possible balkanization of India. This is actually a serious threat and may come true once these eminent economists Manmohan and PC are given another 5 years.
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>> On a more serious note – I have heard the book warns of more partitions and possible balkanization of India. This is actually a serious threat and may come true once these eminent economists Manmohan and PC are given another 5 years.
Regardless of Manmohan and PC it will continue.
What I am getting afraid of these days is that some idiots are calling for "Akhand Bharat" and that India-Pakistan differences will be over just like the fall of Berlin Wall.
That is one of the scariest things I ever heard.
When we Hindu Idiots were not able to tame the 9% Muslim demographic for past 60 years since independence, and the Muslims still continue to enjoy more benefits at the cost of Hindus in the name of Haj subsidies etc. Now how the hell can Hindus can ever dream of coming to power with 40% muslim population (Indian Muslims + Pakistan + Bangladesh). And ever breeding Muslim population will soon overtake Hindu population and then there will be genocides until Hinduism is completely destroyed.
All reasonable Hindus should be wishing for another partition to eject all muslims out of Hindustan.
And after that partition we should execute a purge to eliminate all the communists, congress chamchas and pseudo-secularists amongst our own Hindus.
Bharatiya History Debate Party. Stuck in the past.
@ Ashok Kumar,
You are absolutely right - the partition was actually a very good thing for the Hindus. it consolidated hindus in a single land and splintered the muslims into three. if not for the partition India would by now have become a Yugouslavia.
however, we should make every effort to pin the partition on congress - specially Nehru. why not profit from a tragedy twice?
Sameer thats all fine but what will India do with the Muslim population after it "takes over" those lands?
India taking over anything is a big joke, only thing we are good at is losing territory.
Ashok Kumar while I agree with you, the fact that you and some other Hindus are even willing to concede another partition shows how spineless most Hindus are, after that what you think Muslims will slink away if you give them more land, no it will only embolden them & they will start illegally infiltrating the remaining rump called India, in 50 years maybe we will have a third partition.
@GhostWriter
When I speculate what could have happened if India was not partitioned in 1947. Here are some of my those speculations.
1. If Nehru still followed his communist policies US would have probably propped up Afghanistan and Iran to counter India, just like it propped up Pakistan.
OR
2. US would have instigated separatist feelings amongst Pashtuns, Punjabi muslims and Bengali muslims by stoking fears of total communist takeover Or Hindu Rule.
It seems pretty obvious that US would have done the dirty work of Britain to demolish the crypto-communist regime of Nehru.
I guess Nehru would have already guessed that he would not be able to govern India with his crypto-communist economic policies and subverted democratic system with charismatic and intelligent opposition force like Jinna. Besides all the Muslim countries would have supported Jinna in whatever they can to make him head of India just for the sake of their Muslim pride. When Nehru can't even tolerate domestic dissent how the hell could he have tolerated dissent sponsored by foreign countries.
One more lie being generated these days is that Jinna ditched Indian muslims after partition. That is an outright lie. He prepared complete and efficient plans for population exchange which were snubbed and rejected by Gandhi and Nehru. Anyway why would Nehru give up default 9% votebank and parliamentary seats for generations to come. Infact Jinna was so reasonable and pragmatic that he was saddened to see so much suffering and loss of human lives during partition and he felt that the only way for peace is to complete separate lands for Hindus and Muslims.
Infact I suspect that Nehru allowed Indian muslims to keep their Shaira and personal law board to discourage Indian muslims from migrating to Pakistan and to keep his 9% vote bank forever. Actually Pakistani leaders were being progressive by removing polygamy laws and encouraging family planning etc. Islamofascism were not introduced in Pakistan until Gen Zia-ul-Haq came into power.
@Harish
Coming to spineless Hindus, it is not a question of bravado or machismo. It is about pragmatism and reason. What did the "spineful" Hindus achieve since independence? Very very little. They keep on daydreaming about coming to power at center. They don't realize that Muslim population %age is increasing day by day ie their vote share is decreasing. Also without any Hindutva national media and totally congress controlled media in Stalin style, more and more people are being programmed to follow the cult of pseudo-secularism. This is my personal experience of facing discrimination from my pseudo-secular Hindu colleagues when they discovered that I am a Hindutva supporter. I am also saddened by the fact that I bought my house near muslim locality when I was an amateur of Indian politics. Now I regret that the house value appreciation is very less due to its proximity to muslim locality. So it is better that the so called "spineful" Hindus get out of their cocoons and get themselves aware of the ground realities. They should also realize that they are the smallest minority in this country.
Some wise man said to win any war, we must know who we are and who is our enemy.
Then I asked who am I? I am a Hindu, but so are the many communists and congress-chamchas of India. I am a Hindutvavadi, but considering so many akhanda-bharat megalomaniacs are also there in Hindutva, I asked again myself: who am I? After a while I gave up on labels. It is better to stick to simple ideals of being reasonable, pragmatic and being good to people irrespective of their identities. So who is my enemy? Everybody who is against good, reason and pragmatism. I guess that is why Swapan Dasgupta recently started lashing out at conspiracy-thoerists and some magalomaniacal Hindu daydreamers.
By the way partition with a permanent settlement (which is advocated by Jinna and later recommended by Ambedkar) is not compromise.
@ Ashok Kumar,
I don’t know what led you to conclude that I opposed partition or am for an undivided India. I think for the Hindus of India, partition was a huge saviour. Everything that we have by way of progress is due to the face that at 80+ percent – the majority really is too big to be beaten easily (it can still be done but it takes some doing). For the Muslims of India it was a setback as it splintered them. For the Hindus left in Pakistan it was utter disaster – they were the lambs lead to the slaughter.
All I have said is that Hindus should do all they can to hold Congress and Jawahar as responsible for partition as Jinnah (which incidentally is historically quite true). I am afraid Bapu does not come out in shinning colors either – he was happy to hug the Maulana Ali brothers for Khilafat – which led to Chauri Chaura and Mopallah’s. That blood I am afraid – is squarely on Bapu’s head as opposed to Jinnah’s. Jinnah became bloody (Calcutta Direct Actions Day) only much later.
I don’t like to engage in what if’s of history – but your analysis about US fomented blakanization of India is not only far-fetched, but actually quite silly. The US record – starting with Franklin Roosevelt – was very pro-independent, unpartitioned India. Read Narendra Singh Sarila’s book “In the Shadow of the Great Game” to see the pressure that Churchill got from Franklin R for the same in exchange for war help. That is when Churchill decided to support Jinnah in a big way. He would then tell Roosevelt – sure I can leave India, but not irresponsibly. Look at how these folks will kill each other if I do.
My guess is that in an undivided free India, Nehru would have been much constrained to play his crypto-communist nonsense. We would have had religious riots everyday – the princes may eventually have annulled their accessions (as they were entitled to do). The country would have splintered without the need for the US to lift a finger.
@GhostWriter
Yes, FDR (Franklin Delano Roosevelt) was very pro-Indian.
Warlords - Churchill vs Roosevelt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFVX7LonCOU
This documentary also corroborates exactly what you said.
Roosevelt was also against any form of imperialism. I became a Roosevelt fan after watching that documentary.
But then I watched the next documentary.
Warlords - Roosevelt vs Stalin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icM6-9KusjE
It shows that because of Roosevelt administration's incompetence and pacifist attitude towards Stalin, Soviet spies in USA could steal Nuclear weapons secrets.
I suspect that world was divided b/n USA and Russia after world war 2 and India was given over to Russian communist thugs. Stalin couldn't have got India into his fold if not for his nukes built with stolen technology. Also American isolationist foreign policy until WWII is also to be blamed.
At the risk of sounding self-indulgent here I speculate on what-could-have-been and would-have-beens.
Yes many Americans were pro-Indian.
Even if India got independence without partition, our Communist Nehru would have stoked Anti-Indian feelings among Americans with his pets like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._K._Krishna_Menon who became notorious for giving the longest speech in UN criticising USA.
I wonder how the world would have been shaped if a strong anti-communist leader like Nixon or Reagan were President of USA during WWII instead of a socialist like Roosevelt. But the irony is that most anti-communists in USA during WWII were Republicans who were opposed to economic stimulus packages and public spending PLUS many of them were also white supremacists and anti-semites and thus Nazi sympathizers. Besides Paul Krugman observed that if not for Roosevelt's stimulus measures and socialist policies USA wouldn't have come out of great depression and hence would not be able to generate funds to fight the WWII in which case the world would have been left with much bigger tyrant Hitler.
PS:
Former KGB (Russian CIA) agent Yuri Bezmenov and Russian diplomat to India explains how Communist Russia screwed Indian economy and political system and tried to do the same in USA.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4CDAB99FAB5980BA
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