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amazing, isn't it, that a religion with the name 'sanatana dharma' still does not get credit for inventing dharma? oh, it was the sainted buddhists who invented it!
once again, this is nothing personal with brp, he is using the standard rhetoric of 90% of people in kerala (ie. the 30% mohammedans, 30% christists, and 30% communists).
maybe the church guys had something to say about this, when they were not busy exhorting the sons of shem (ie. semitic west asians) to rule over the sons of ham (ie. blacks). to be followed by genocide or apartheid vs. blacks.
or maybe as the buddha said to the mother who insisted he revive her dead child, "get me some gingelly seeds from a house where there has been no death". ... Read More
in case it is not clear, do show me a society that did not have differentiation of groups. at least hindus did not go around exterminating people. until the british came along, there was not much casteism either. kindly read original british documents from the british museum as anthologized by dharampal.
interestingly the 'priests' of the communist persuasion -- after all communism is ... Read Moreidentical to the catholic church -- are also prone to putting on airs. remember pol pot and company? i have been to the killing fields of cambodia and the tuol sleng prison where the communist high priests condemned thousands to death. they were serving their jealous, violent god.
despite vanity about being from the face of god or whatever, priests are not so powerful in hinduism. hindus engage someone as a paid expert to do priestly stuff, just like you employ a doctor or a mechanic or gardener. they are not treated as divine, unlike in the semitic cases as above.
If you go through the hymns of Rigveda, without being burdened by Sayana's interpretation, which came 15 or 20 centuries later, you can find the names of many hostile tribes who are now untraceable. Until we know what exactly happened to them, I will suspend judgment on the question of extermination.
who invented dharma? isn't that inherent in your question? those who ... Read Morecall their religion sanatana dharma are pretty evidently the ones who invented it. i mean, try an analogy with the jesus people. they are obviously the ones who invented their church.
i did expect you to bring up the buddhism red herring. this is another nehruvian-stalinist invention, based on the white tendency to ascribe all good things in the world -- including a lot of hindu ideas -- to the greek/roman heritage, which of course they wiped out ruthlessly and deride as "pagan". since greek/roman civilization is dead, they can weep crocodile tears over it. similarly comrades -- amazing how true they are to the church's traditions (contd...)
and incidentally, before you latch on to that,no, it was not hindus who wiped out buddhism, it was the mohammedans who destroyed the viharas -- all the way from central asia to india -- who did. the coup de grace was the rape of nalanda by baktiar khilji circa 1182 ce.
you might want to go for a paradigm shift and consider that buddhism was merely a reformation in hinduism, and that the counter-reformation came a few hundred years later, in the form of sankara's intellectual and the bhakti saints' devotional responses. (contd...)
in fact, practising hindus and buddhists have no such animosity. hindu deities are found in buddhist temples -- i have seen these first hand in thailand, cambodia, and japan. there is also the account by xiuen tsang of common worship of the deity at sabarimala by hindus and buddhists. and everywhere in southeast asia, you find the lines between hindu and buddhist worship quite blurred.
the major innovation of the buddha was the removal of the deistic element, and also the introduction of the clergy. there is reason to believe both were fatal to buddhism later. one, the dry and nihilistic non-theism of buddhism (contd...)
so, no, buddhists did not invent dharma. nor do they claim to. they followed the philosophy of dharma that hindus had already developed. incidentally, your claim that dharma was invented by buddhists is insulting to jainism, which was contemporaneous to buddhism, does follow dharma, and has no inherent conflict with hinduism. do you mean, miraculously, that jainism and buddhism simultaneously invented dharma? by occam's razor, that's unlikely, they both inherited it from hinduism.
please read history not written by nehruvian stalinists.
how many did the church kill? counting heretics like the gnostics, the crusades, the native americans, the incas, the azetcs, et al, roughly 250 million people? including the 30 million they killed in india in the great el nino famines of the 1880s.
how about the mohammedans? at least 100 million in india alone, untold millions in persia, egypt, and so on.... Read More
how about the comrades? 30 million in the 'great leap backward', 30 million in the gulags, 1/7th of the country's entire population in cambodia, and so on. easily 100 million in its short life of 100 years.
oh yes, the semitic types are the champions of mass murder.
and yes, it is always relative. compared to the other ideologies on offer, hinduism is far more benign.
unlike the semites, who follow a scorched-earth policy of destroying other's sacred places and then stealing them -- thousands of hindu/jain/buddhist shrines have been turned into mosques, and at least hundreds into churches in india -- hindus invite others in with open arms.
the tribes in the rg veda and how they disappeared, and your imputation that this was genocide -- btw, did you read the rg veda in sanskrit or in some motivated translation by some white christist or some comrade? -- is, i am afraid, at variance with observed facts. much like the late lamented 'aryan' invasion fairy-tale.
secondly, you're once again reiterating your bias that there is no such thing as hinduism, or that it only exists because of... Read More some al-biruni or some max mueller. this is amusing,and it's downright libelous, not to mention wholly at variance with the facts. hinduism owes nothing whatsoever to the christists, who have on the contrary, stolen mightily from it: the trinity, the virgin birth, etc. and from buddhism the entire idea of an order of monks.
the christists are brilliant at "truth by repeated assertion". alas, you have been subjected to that by the nehruvian stalinists. just by repeating a falsehood many times, it doesn't become a fact, although this has been successfully done by goebbels, the indian church regarding the non-existent 'st' thomas, etc.