all for the stupid vanity of that buffoon, the 'dravidian' t r baalu,
who thinks he's the godfather of the tamils. more bigoted souls than
these 'dravidians' are hard to find.
what is sad about them is that they have been thoroughly semiticized.
their 'scriptures' are exactly like the deuteronomy and so forth, and
say, "hate, hate, kill, kill."
this is really sad because tamil nadu used to be, once upon a time, a
civilized place.
the 'dravidians' demonstrate what happens to people who have been
forcibly uprooted from their moorings. they become 'vaastuhara' --
those bereft of self-image. they are the most pathetic of humans.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kalyan97
July 29, 2007
UPA sinking billions in the ocean
Sethusamudram project does not make any nautical sense
By Capt. (Retd.) H. Balakrishnan
The environmental factors of cyclonic activity and siltation rates in
the Palk Bay area impinge on shipping safety. It is also understood
that maintenance dredging may have to be undertaken through the year
to maintain dredged depths. This could lead to substantially
increasing the costs of the SSCP.
...
REFERENCES
(A) Business Line; December 29, 2004; "Will We Ever Learn"; P. Devarajan.
(B) "Is the Sethusamudram Shipping Canal Project Technically
Feasible?"; R. Ramesh
(C) "Cyclones, Tsunami and the Sethusamudram Project"; Papri Sri
Raman; ( www.boloji.com/environment/25.htm)
(D) Frontline; Vol 22 Issue 01, January 01-14, 2005; "Of Gains and
Loses"; T.S. Subramanian
(E) "Strategic Security and Sethusamudram Project"; Col. R. Hariharan
(Retd); www.saag.org; Paper No: 1713
(F) "Countering LTTE's Air Capability"; B. Raman; www.saag.org; Paper No: 2222
(G) "Maritime Related Terrorism"- Michael Richardson
http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=194&page=2
13 comments:
I dont understand why hindus are being mobilized to work against Sethusamudram project.
The idea is to dig a narrow channel so as to shorten the coast to coast ship travel. It makes sense economically as well.
It can only make Rama sethu more popular and sanctimonious as its helping India/Bharat again.
Of course, Sri Lankan has lot to lose here.
This project should have been implemented long ago. A faster coast-to-coast access is vital for a better defense of Indian coasts.
Nizhal Yoddha said>>> this is really sad because Tamil Nadu used to be, once upon a time, a civilized place.
I have to disagree vehemently here. I don’t know when you visited Tamil Nadu and/or other parts of India but Tamil Nadu is as civilized as any other part of India.
I understand and share your frustration and disgust at what this T.R. Balu is doing but that has nothing to do with Tamil Nadu or Tamils or their civilization.
I am a Tamil and as a Tamil I request you not to bring all the Tamils under one fold of Dravidian because we are not.
@Santhosh
I dont think u get it..
Dredging for this canal to help this coast to coast 'travel' will destroy the Rama Sethu...It
If u want to sharpen naval defenses, help coastal economy, there are hundreds of other projects(for e.g the transshipment hub in Vizhinjam in Kerala) that Indian govt shud/or could accelarate rather than throwing money into the seas and damaging a very holy aspect of India's history.. Check out some of the archives here in this blog and you will find tons of information from respetable organisations/people in India who describe why this is such a bad idea in every sense (enviornmentally/ecologically/ and even economically)..
Hindus are meek souls in TN. They have historically been terrorized into submission by the 'Dravidian' hypocrites who parade themselves as atheists..They are a blot on the fair name of the people, the state and hoary culture of the land..
@Santhosh
“sanctimonious”
I think you should look up the word in a dictionary. One definition I got was:
“Function: adjective
hypocritically pious or devout”
siva, you can protest all you want, but under the 'dravidians' tamil nadu has become an uncivilized place. this is because the 'silent majority' of civilized people have been cowed into silence by the aggressive small minority of 'dravidian' bigots. this is a problem, and you have to admit it before any steps can be taken to rectify it. why is it that tamils elect these thugs to power? it must be because the 'silent majority' are in effect colluding with the 'dravidians' out of either fear or conviction.
for instance, the 'silent majority' tamils must be enjoying the largesse, eg. the chip plants, the water desalination plants, the SEZs etc that the 'dravidians' have wrested from the center, right? in excess of tamil nadu's fair share of industrial investment? or the mullaperiyar waters or the kaveri waters that the 'dravidians' are bullying others about?
if you think you are being unfairly maligned -- guilt by association -- you guys have to do something about it, or else you are acting like the allegedly 'moderate' mohammedans complaining that the sins of the terrorists shouldn't be ascribed to them. but the 'moderate' mohammedans are enjoying the benefits that the terrorists bring to them.
or the 'moderate' christists claiming that it's the *other* christists who are the thugs. this i find particularly amusing. on this blog, one christist claimed that catholics are not christists, and that the true christists are protestants. another claimed that the catholics are good guys, the protestants are the bad guys. actually, *all* christists are bad.
i'll post something on this blog that addresses this issue of the 'silent majority' and the 'loud minority', and the effective collusion between the two.
Rajeev,
This recent comment of yours is neither in good taste or in logic.
Attributing blame and painting the entire Tamil population with the 'Dravidian' brush is neither correct nor appropriate.
Its like attributing every Mallu in Kerala or a Bengali the sins of communists. You ask Siva why do Tamils go about electing Dravidian parties. I dont see anybody in kerala ever voting out communists buggers from u r land..So do i go about calling every Hindu in Kerala a commie, including you. Sometime back u requested people not to confuse between the Christist minority in Kerala with the majority Hindus.. Interesting.. Do I see two sets of rules for ppl in Kerala and TN.
Oh well lets see where the heck are the options for ppl in TN. BJP in TN is a freakin joke, they absolutely take no public postions, their leadership is a nut case, no sane person would wanna waste their votes on them. Congress which I think is in a much better shape in the state has been emasculated beyond words by the central leadership headed by the Xtist Sonia..Dravidian parties have a vice like grip on power. Btw, it would be pretty juvenile to think, that the guy who goes to vote really cares about the destruction of Hindusim when he goes to election booth. Its mostly for a freebie given before the election or promised after one..
Given this politcal scenario, its like choosing b/w devil and the deep blue sea.
I would agree more than anybody here about the deleterious effects of Dravidian parties on the country and state, but they are no worse than your commies or Xtian thugs ruling Andhra. As hindus each one of us in our states are the 'silent majority' up against a very powerful but entrenched 'loud minority'. So TN is no exception and is no more uncivilized than your Kerala or any other state in the Union..
Rajeev,
I agree with you almost on everything except on this one.
If we use your yardstick then Kerala is in deeper shit than TN, electing CONgress and bloody Commies in rotation. TN, when compared to other states in India, is in a much better position to defend itself from Islamic and Christist aggression. If we go by the latest census TN is one of the states with a vast majority of Hindus, close to 90% of its population, and only few states like MP, Orissa and Uttarkhand are ahead. So my dear friend TN and Tamil civilization is far more safe compared to other states in India.
In this scale Kerala fails miserably and is fast becoming a hellhole for Hindus. Even the Coimbatore serial blasts were conducted by Kerala Muslims. The most outrageous act of Muslim appeasement in India happened in Kerala when it’s assembly passed a resolution unanimously, yes unanimously, asking the government of TN to release the prime accused in Coimbatore serial blasts, one Abdul Nasser Madani who is under trial in Coimbatore central prison. Even “Dravidians” cannot match this, don’t you think? So shall I say Kerala Civilization is barbaric because of the acts of Islamic barbarians or shall I say it has become uncivilized because of Kerala politician’s pandering to Muslims?
What’s wrong in enjoying the “largesse” that the 'Dravidians' have wrested from the center? After all Tamils are hard working people and you yourself have said that a few times. I don’t believe TN is receiving more than its share from the center but if it does then it's bloody time. After all TN is an entrepreneurial job creating economic power house contributing a lot to Indian economy. It is just behind Maharashtra in economic activity and wealth generation. It’s not a drag on the Indian state like J&K or BIMARU states.
We can apply your accusation about silent majority supporting vocal bigoted minority to the rest of the country as well, of course except those states that have elected BJP governments. Don’t you think?
Name one state that does not have water-sharing problem with their neighbor. Punjab has it, Maharashtra and AP are at each other’s throat, and Karnataka is at odds with not just TN but also Kerala. So why single out TN?
I share your views on “Dravidian” lunatics but that does not mean you can smear an entire civilization, especially when rest of the political class is much worse.
I agree Ramar Palam has to be saved and the Dravidians put in their place but I don’t think accusing an entire civilization that has nothing to do with Dravidian politics is the way to achieve it.
why are you guys mouthing so much nonsense about other states?
I think the point here was that dravidians are the most prominent and visible aspect of tamil nadu and the kind of sound bytes emanating from TN (from karunanidhi etc) are mostly divisive and damaging to indian culture.
even the poor states (BIMARU? you are no less BIMAR) can blame their state of decay on the center and other states. they can say 'tamil nadu sucks our natural resources to get rich', and 'center gives preferntial treatment to TN'.
Fact of the matter is any people who try hard will get ahead, get prefrential treatment, while others will keep making excuses.
at the same time, i hope you realize your TN is not a pradise, it is as much a third world hell hole as the rest of India. so please stop bragging about the 'drag' on Indian state, as if the rest of us are dying to be like you. why dont you break free and see how much rest of india is a drag. very soon parts of TN will be claiming the others to be a 'drag'. there is no end to such divisive mentality.
@ Satish,
Before you open your loud mouth and give sanctimonious preaching put things in perspective.
siva and harish, i anticipated your argument about how kerala is being destroyed too. this is why i acknowledged as much in this other post on this blog *before* you guys came up with it. yes, it is true that in both northern kerala and central kerala civilization has more or less come to an end: the first is under mohammedan/communist hegemony, and the second is under christist hegemony.
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2007/07/peaceful-majority.html
granted, hindus are being wiped out in kerala by the marx-mullah-missionary axis. and we should stand up and protest, but we are caught in this dance of death with the communists and the christists on the political front and the mohammedans on the terror front.
one big difference is that kerala people do kick one set of bastards one and bring in the other set every few years. but in tamil nadu, both sets of jerks are 'dravidians', they only differ in degree and target of atrocities. why is that?
anyway consider what the implications are of the piece on the silent majority. by being the silent majority of civilized tamils, you are not achieving anything. you are actually helping the 'dravidians'. why is there no choice in tamil nadu other than 'dravidians'? are they so smart? can't be, the ones i have known seem just this side of illiteracy. brainwashed fools, actually. is it that the christists are giving them terrific strategic support? what is the reason?
tamil nadu is 90% hindu? hard to believe. kanyakumari district is at least 70% christist. i suspect a lot of other parts of TN are full of stealth christists. just take a random look at how many cars and autos sport crosses in chennai: i'd say roughly 50%.
and it has been a long-running complaint that TN manages to arm-twist the center and get more than its fair share of investment. this is not too bad, because tamils do work hard and industry thrives, but the problem is the 'dravidians' want all of india to be sucked dry for them. for instance, maran's idea was that *all* investment in india in IT/Telecom had to be in chennai. this is blatantly unfair. similarly the antics of baalu and that railway minister: all railway assets in Southern Railway have to be in chennai. this sort of blatant bigotry and imperialism is what annoys the rest of the south.
At the cost of being repetitive:
Christism = Mohammedanism - Muhammad
Marxism = Christism - Christ
Western Liberalism = Marxism - Marx/Mao
christism + marxism + western liberalism = mohammedanism + christism + marxism - muhammad - christ - marx/mao
"Dravidianism" = ??????????
Do I hear partial derivatives & integration ?
BTW, didn't that idiot "Periyar"
conceive of the construct "Dravidian" as a generic term that would be applicable to both Tamils & Malyalees ?
Or did he actually extend it to everybody south of the Vindhyas ?
Also, does nobody in Kerala subscribe to "Dravidianism" ?
I'm a Kannada speaking Hyderabadi, so I really would like to know.
There are no takers for this "Dravidianism" in A.P to the best of my knowledge. Nor in Karnataka, though there is some resentment against "Outsiders" and "North Indians" in Bangalore where Kannadigas comprise hardly 32% of the population.
My older cousins tell me how the Dravidians from Madras sent bangles to the Bangalore University students union
at the height of the anti-Hindi agitation, to mock them for not participating in their seditious activities.
Another interesting fact, Telugu speaking people in Bangalore are virtually indistinguishable from Kannadigas.
However, both Tamils (except a few Brahmin communities) & Malyalees
refuse to learn the local language.
It is probably because the vast majority of these Tamils & Mallus in Bangalore happen to be christists/moplahs respectively.
Dravidianism is clearly the construct of perverted christist missionaries/colonialists. I would not give any credit to the supreme idiot "Periyar" for inventing even this bizarre theory of Aryan invasion. Only an absolute moron could believe in this nonsense.
Incidentally, I have met products of IIT Madras (Tamil & Telugu speakers) who subscribe to Dravidianism ! Could there be a greater waste of God given intelligence ?
Unbelievable. In my opinion, the IIT's do need to include some
"re-education" in history/civics
in their curriculum.
Sorry Rajeev,
Your response does not address major problems I had in your arguments or conclusions in this (and some of u r and previous posts).
1. I do not see any value add (for example) in a state like Kerala where u toggle b/w communists and christists and TN where we toggle b/w Dravidian parties. More importantly no where in your response do u answer the specific point of tarring an entire state with the 'Dravidian' brush as opposed to letting people from other states escape from a similar tarring. That sounds like hypocrisy to me.
For all that I know, Bengalis have voted communists for the last 3 decades, they don’t get to be blamed for the horrible sins of Communists. People in UP continue to vote for Mulayam who is a certified traitor.
2. You made a pretty strong point against TN calling it a less civilized place. That was totally unnecessary and without any basis. That state is as civilized as any other state in our Union.
3.You question about how the Dravidian parties continue to hold their vice like grip on power. I think it’s a long answer. But yes they are very clever and yes the Xtists since Bishop Caldwell continue to exert huge influence on them. Your point about stealth Xtists in TN is totally true and I do not accept the 90% Hindu theory. Dravidians have mastered the art of understanding what it takes to dominate the political structure (just like Communists and other cults). They demolished completely the Hindu self esteem, used the mass media (Movies, TV etc), pride in their language to wonderful effect. More importantly they have maintained a fairly successful economic policy with dollops of help leveraged by putting their men in Central ministers.
The lack of options is more due to the lack of imagination and resourcefulness on the part of BJP and more importantly the Congress High command that does not want to let its party grow. The people of the state cannot be blamed (or blamed as much as the people of any other state) for shenanigans of their political leaders.
4.The problem being a Hindu in TN is a very unique and painful one. In your state, you are tortured at every stage in your life by the Dravidian politicians and the system. When we come out of the state, everybody gangs upon us as natives of the state for all the horrible shenanigans of the Dravidian parties. This lack of understanding from our fellow country men is many a times painful...
5.Your whole point about how the Dravidian parties abuse their position being in Central positions for economic benefits is not a uniquely Dravidian political phenomenon. Different (Every)politicians/parties use their power for furthering their interests. These guys (Maran, T.R.Balu) do such things to amass unheard amount of wealth and power. This in turn helps them further their hold on power in their state.
6.Rajeev, may be its time for you to blame many of the MP's from Kerala for their criminal lack of attention to the interests of u r state. For example (since u bring this up so often), wasn’t the railway minister (O.Rajagopalan) from Kerala in the last NDA ministry? Did he do anything worthwhile for Kerala? The opening of Railway divisions/subdivisions is a purely politcal decision and the 'leaders' from Kerala need to be blamed other than somebody from TN. Why the heck is A.K.Antony not pushing the VIzhinjadam transhipment hub inspite being the powerful Defense Minister. May be leaders from Kerala are not used to doing anything worthwile for their state since the denizens of the state keep voting them anyway.
I rest my case here.
Rajeev,
Reason for no other alternative except these Dravidian parties is mainly due to Nehru’s stupid compulsory Hindi policy. In it’s earlier years there were no takers for DMK’s atheism or any other policies. Then Nehru gifted them with his compulsory Hindi policy and that was it. CONgress never came back to power.
Then in 1969 Kamaraj along with other senior leaders kicked out Indira Gandhi from Congress. So during the 1972 TN assembly elections Indira Gandhi joined hands with DMK as junior partner and defeated Kamaraj’s Congress party. After this defeat Congress was in tatters and before it could recover MGR, the matinee idol of Tamil cinemas, FYI he was a Sri Lankan born Malayalee, broke away from DMK and floated AIADMK and became an alternative to DMK. Then in 1977 elections AIADMK riding on MGR’s popularity routed its opponents and came to power and he ruled for little over 10 years. Ever since TN is ruled in turn by these two parties. Congress was content with riding piggyback on either one of those parties and even BJP played this game couple of times. Now CONgress is much worse compared to these Dravidian parties so it makes no difference anyway and the BJP never presented itself as a credible alternative.
You are right when you say that both sets of jerks in TN are “Dravidians” but AIADMK is Dravidian in name only. Unlike DMK, AIADMK is not atheist. I repeat they are not atheist. MGR was an ardent devotee of Mookabikai Amman and every body knows that Jayalalitha visits all sort of temples, remember her famous visit to Guruvayoor and donating an elephant after she won the 2001 elections. AIADMK government always takes oath in the name of God, they go to temples, are generally god fearing and they don’t bad mouth Hinduism. So ideologically DMK and AIADMK are not same and that I think is a credible alternative.
I agree with you about the stealth Christists. Even though the official figure puts Hindu share of the population at around 88.50% real numbers could be different.
Every state has it grievances. During Rao’s years then Railway minister C K Jaffer Sharief of Bangalore introduced many new trains to Bangalore and Karnataka at the expense of other states including TN and there are many such examples. So when every body does it why single out Dravidians? At least they are doing their job for which they were elected to, don’t you think?
I share your concern in general about the state of Hinduism and Hindus in TN but smearing an entire civilization for the follies of one stupid party (DMK) does not do justice.
I hope this post was helpful for you to understand TN and it’s politics better.
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