Saturday, May 28, 2005

on the koran incident at guantanamo

may 27th

from the financial times, may 16th:

the mufti of egypt, sheikh ali gomaa, on the alleged flushing of a koran down a toilet in guantanamo bay --

"it's an unforgivable crime toward the monotheistic religions which call for the faithful to respect the sacred values of other religions"

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ah, i am glad that explains it. respect for other religions only applies to 'monotheistic religions'. that is why destroying the bamiyan buddhas was okay. this is why hindu travelers to saudi arabia will find their gitas shredded and their ganeshas ground underfoot (this first-hand experience was related to me by a diplomat's wife who said she was severely traumatized when a customs man calmly did this to her religious objects at the airport in saudi arabia).

but how does this explain the following in relation to a 'monotheistic religion'?

http://www.insightmag.com/media/paper441/news/2005/05/23/National/What-About.Bible.Desecration.By.Saudis-953649.shtmlWhat

What about Bible desecration by Saudis? By Patrick Goodenough
May 23, 2005
A U.S.-based think tank critical of the Saudi government has added its voice to allegations that authorities in the kingdom routinely destroy Bibles.

"As a matter of official policy, the government either incinerates or dumps Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia," the Saudi Institute said in an article posted on its website.
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i think it's simple. when monotheistic religions are powerful, they will trash the symbols of other religions as part of 'my monotheist god is bigger than your monotheist god'. muslims did this to christians in moorish spain. christians returned the favor when they kicked the muslims out of spain. now christians are powerful, so they will desecrate muslim objects. when and where muslims are powerful, they desecrate christian objects. par for the course.

the hue and cry over the koran incident is inducing liberal guilt in the west, which is a good stick to beat them with.

of course in the us, freedom of speech has allowed an 'artist' to display a crucifix upside down in a beakerful of urine, entitled 'piss christ'. this was a while ago, i wonder how people would relate to that today.

a bigger question: isn't the veneration of objects such as the cross and the bible a little strange considering the prohibitions on (graven) images? is a book a graven image? why not? it's a man-made object, isn't it?

happy memorial day weekend to those in the us.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

These muslims are a bunch of hypocrites. They did not utter even a word against the destruction of a heritage structure like Bamiya Buddha by their co-religionists, on the other hand Quran is something which can be re-printed anytime. They are more concerned about some book being flushed down the toilet than the loss of innocent lives (of their own co-religionists).... after all that book does deserve to go down the drain for all the horrible things it says about us non-muslims, and also ordains muslims to kill us whenever possible. Now they have started a Quran distribution drive in order for people to realise how "peaceful" Islam really is... I wonder how many more lives will be lost once those people flush their copies down the toilet realising how much shit the book really contains.

This is the message of Islam:

Agree that its peaceful else get slain !

Anonymous said...

Exactly Rajeev!How does one lose sight of truth and fairness that are so patently clear sans a trace of ambiguity?Reminds me of another thing.

Maldives is another Saudilike place where no symbols of "Hindu God"are allowed.There too at the airport there are people(!)ready to pounce and trounce upon our Gods'photos etc.Point is, pseudo secular India sent in its troops with such alacrity to thwart an internal coup there!

Stooping to conquer(Bhagavan Sri Krishna Paramathma never counsels self flagellation)is idiocy.When do we conquer our stoop?

Anonymous said...

It is becoming clear that Indian Catholics are functioning as fifth columnists for foreign powers.
People who testify against their own country abroad and who threaten India with western sanctions are a threat to it and must be dealt with.

Anonymous said...


which is why the Bible, the Cross and the Saints are venerated while G-d is worshipped


You must be a Catholic, many protestants consider Catholics to be filthy idolaters for their veneration of saints.

Anonymous said...

Indian Catholics *are* a fifth column, the antics of Cedric Prakash, John Dayal, Dolphy D'Souza and John Prabhudoss leave no doubt. Catholics are at the forefront of vilyfying India and making money out of it, Agnes Gonxha Bijaxhiu (aka "Mother" Teresa) was a fine exponent of this art.

Look at the website of these traitors : http://www.aiccindia.org/
Note that Catholic dominated AICC does not have a single good thing to say about India, Indians should seriously start pondering about how to deal with these traitors.

Anonymous said...

But these non-Catholic Christians do venerate the Bible and the Cross.
Rubbish, the Jehovah's witnesses consider (correctly) the worship of cross to be idolatrous. So they correctly call you guys filthy idolaters.

Anonymous said...

Read my comments - veneration is different from worship.
Most Christians have incorporated pagan beliefs, for eg. look at many silly Catholic rituals, so the Jehovah's witnesses are correct and you are a filthy idolater.

Anonymous said...

For all you fulminating anti Hindu (idol breakers and idol looters both creeds included)idiots("Lunacy can be cured not idiocy"!),I narrate the following:-

"DrH.of the small group of Americans who spent a few weeks in the Ashram asked Sri Maharshi(Bhagavan) if there exists such a thing as a Personal God.

B:Yes,Iswara.
Dr.H:(with astonishment)What?With eyes,nose,ears etc?

B:Yes,if you have them why should not God also have them?
H:When I read in the Puranas that God has these organs,I laugh.

B:Why don't you laugh at yourself for having them?

A Hindu devotee says:
"People scoff at me and call me a superstitious idolator"

B:Why don't you retort by calling them worse idolators?For do they not wash,dress,feed and worship their body so many times every day.Is not the body the biggest idol?Then is he not an idol worshipper?

H:It is hard to conceive God,the formless,giving rise to forms.

B:Why hard?Does not your mind remain formless when you do not perceive or think,say,in deep sleep,in samadhi or in a swoon?And does it not create space and relationshipwhen it thinks and impels your body to act?Just as your mind devises and your body executes in one homogenous,automatic act,so automatic,in fact,that most people are not aware of the process,so does the Divine Intelligence devise and plan,and His energy automatically and spontaneously acts-the thought and the act are one integral whole.This Creative Energy which is implicit in Pure Intelligence is called by various Names,one of which is Maya or Shakti,the Creator of forms or Image."

All you anti vedic numbskulls--- gotit?I know I am talking to long dead, putrifying but respirating carcasses(awaiting disposal).

Anonymous said...


They seem to oppose the BJP and have headlines regarding alleged persecution of Christians from all over the world apart from some general news.


Dear Filthy idolater,
You are desperately clutching at straws by comparing the site of a community that has been totally cleansed from its homeland to the site of community that is ruling India by proxy. Even the Panun Kashmir site, has things to say about glory of Indian culture and their contribution in it, but the flithy rice xtians only whine, whine and whine. Part of the reason might be that most Indian Christians cannot think beyond a plate of rice. The "adopt a dalit child" scheme on the right on the left pane is sponsored by a US politician who is a known friend of Pakistan and enemy of India. Indians should think of ways to deal with these Catholic traitors, they clearly don't belong in India. Indians should seriously study how the Shoguns dealt with the Catholic missionaries.

Anonymous said...

Funny how these people condemn idolism, while posting statues of their figures all over their religious places of worship. There are pictures of their saints and "sons of God" holding lambs and such (which he will eat later no doubt, considering they don't respect vegetarianism).

What hypocrisy!