oct 7th, 2008
how perfect! the worst imperialists of the east embrace the worst imperialists of the west! a true marriage made in heaven!
i was expecting this ever since i heard a lot of the old khmer rouge communists had become christists like pentecostals. same thing: fanatic barbarians of one stripe can easily become fanatic barbarians of another stripe.
this is like one's worst nightmare: a chinese communist turned christist. oh boy!
and as usual, the christists are lying about their numbers.
similarly, there are 100 million christists in india. kerala alone has 15 million, if you count the stealth christists as well, the ones with hindu names who go to church on the sly. this ain't no poor oppressed minority. they go around shooting others if they don't like them.
how perfect! the worst imperialists of the east embrace the worst imperialists of the west! a true marriage made in heaven!
i was expecting this ever since i heard a lot of the old khmer rouge communists had become christists like pentecostals. same thing: fanatic barbarians of one stripe can easily become fanatic barbarians of another stripe.
this is like one's worst nightmare: a chinese communist turned christist. oh boy!
and as usual, the christists are lying about their numbers.
similarly, there are 100 million christists in india. kerala alone has 15 million, if you count the stealth christists as well, the ones with hindu names who go to church on the sly. this ain't no poor oppressed minority. they go around shooting others if they don't like them.
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From: kalyan
In fact, the state's attitude seems ambivalent. In December 2007, President Hu Jintao held a meeting with religious leaders and told them that "the knowledge of religious people must be harnessed to build a prosperous society." The truth is that Christians and Communists are circling each other warily. But it is hard to avoid the conclusion that Christianity will have a political impact one day. "If you want to know what China will be like in the future," concludes Mr Zhao, "you have to consider the future of Christianity in China."
See this article with graphics and related item at http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342509
From: kalyan
SONS OF HEAVEN
Oct 2nd 2008
Inside China's fastest-growing non-governmental organisation
ZHAO XIAO, a former Communist Party official and convert to Christianity, smiles over a cup of tea and says he thinks there are up to 130m Christians in China. This is far larger than previous estimates. The government says there are 21m (16m Protestants, 5m Catholics). Unofficial figures, such as one given by the Centre for the Study of Global Christianity in Massachusetts, put the number at about 70m. But Mr Zhao is not alone in his reckoning. A study of China by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, an American think-tank, says indirect survey evidence suggests many unaffiliated Christians are not in the official figures. And according to China Aid Association (CAA), a Texas-based lobby group, the director of the government body which supervises all religions in China said privately that the figure was indeed as much as 130m in early 2008
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Oct 2nd 2008
Inside China's fastest-growing non-governmental organisation
ZHAO XIAO, a former Communist Party official and convert to Christianity, smiles over a cup of tea and says he thinks there are up to 130m Christians in China. This is far larger than previous estimates. The government says there are 21m (16m Protestants, 5m Catholics). Unofficial figures, such as one given by the Centre for the Study of Global Christianity in Massachusetts, put the number at about 70m. But Mr Zhao is not alone in his reckoning. A study of China by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, an American think-tank, says indirect survey evidence suggests many unaffiliated Christians are not in the official figures. And according to China Aid Association (CAA), a Texas-based lobby group, the director of the government body which supervises all religions in China said privately that the figure was indeed as much as 130m in early 2008
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In fact, the state's attitude seems ambivalent. In December 2007, President Hu Jintao held a meeting with religious leaders and told them that "the knowledge of religious people must be harnessed to build a prosperous society." The truth is that Christians and Communists are circling each other warily. But it is hard to avoid the conclusion that Christianity will have a political impact one day. "If you want to know what China will be like in the future," concludes Mr Zhao, "you have to consider the future of Christianity in China."
See this article with graphics and related item at http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342509
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