apr 11th, 2011 CE
rather sensible column by tavleen singh.
http://www.indianexpress.com/story-print/774100/Hysteria will not end corruption As I have watched mass hysteria build up over Anna Hazare’s fast, there have been moments when I felt that his supporters had forgotten that India is a democratic country. I have long believed that the most apolitical Indians are those who belong to the English speaking, tweeting, texting middle classes but I had no idea just how apolitical they were till last week. Without reading the Jan Lokpal bill that Anna Hazare is trying to ram down our throats, actors, writers, social activists, television anchors and sundry other supposedly educated Indians leapt on to Anna’s bandwagon. |
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Here is some cricket history/trivia. There were three batsmen named Vijay who played for India in the 1960's,
Vijay Merchant, Vijay Hazare and Vijay Manjrekar. Vijay
Hazare was apparently, a Christist. Does that ring a bell?
Karyakarta,
Hazare is a Maharashtrian surname that is found across a few castes, and not all of them from the Dalit category. Not every person who carries this surname is likely to be Christian. Also, Vijay Hazare was never known to proselytize.
I am no sympathizer of Anna Hazare though I too am against corruption. However, there is enough about him or his movement or the specimens who have attached themselves to his movement that can be talked about. Insinuating a Christist connection when none has so far been seen is in bad taste.
While on the same topic, I must mention that I have come across many Christians who never proselytize. In fact you can never even know they are Christians unless they tell you or somehow you chance upon it - not every Christian carries his faith on his sleeve or his forehead like a Hindu or a Mohdan - and they deserve to be in the positions they occupy. But yes, they would not be there had their forefathers not converted; they would be tilling someone else's fields as bonded labour.
I wasn't really insinuating that this Hazare is s Christist, rather recalling another famous person (celebrity?) who shared the last name. It is true that not every Christian person is a proseltyzing Christist. It is also true that many Indian citizens who happen to be born into Christian families are patriots & nationalists. However, this is actually
in spite of and not because of the Christian connection.
I disagree with your contention about religion/caste/vocation etc. That is a purely economic issue.
"But yes, they would not be there had their forefathers not converted; they would be tilling someone else's fields as bonded labour."
So all the Christists in Goa and North East converted to escape "bonded labor"?
Ever heard of the Inquisition in Goa?
And who the hell cares about whether they proseltyze or not, they still follow an intolerant cult responsible for the genocide of millions of Hindus and their fellow cult members are killing and forcibly converting Hindus even today.
Not all Muslims proselytize or wear their faith on their sleeve either, does that mean we should go sing Hindu-Muslim bhai bhai?
Christists and their Churches have done more to destroy Hindus through media propaganda than any Jihadi in modern times but I guess your heart bleeds more for some Vijay Hazare's rep than the Hindus being ethnic cleansed in the North East by Church backed terrorists.
Anand I suggest you do some reading about Christian history, this ideology has killed more people over a wider span of history and territory (the America's, Australia, Africa, Asia) than Islam (mainly Asia and Africa).
You want to see how Christians behave when they are in power or majority, look no further than our NE where Christian terrorists talk openly about "Nagaland for Christ", Mizoram where they kicked out the Bru people for refusing to convert, Tipura where NLFT forcibly converts tribals and has banned Durga and Saraswati Puja etc.
As far as Christian "patriots" go, they are not doing us any favors as it is a basic virtue expected of any citizen. Historically their community were British lackeys and have committed treason against Hindus. Syrian Xtians who arrived as refugees were given shelter by Hindus in Kerala. As arch secularist Sanjay Subrahmanyam documents in his book on Vasco Da Gama when the Vasco landed at Goa their leaders went to him, pledged their loyalty to him and urged him to destroy the same Hindu rulers who sheltered them for centuries and help them spread the cult of jesus. Can there be any greater perfidy than this?
It is another matter that Portuguese once they were finished with these useful idiots turned on them for not being Catholics.
Suggest you read these to understand what's in store for Hindus from Christians (links are by a Greek scholar about how Christians wiped out the real Greeks, you know the one's who built the Parthenon, started the Olympics as a religious festival in honor of Zeus):
http://www.vallianatos.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/mq015-03-06-vallianatos_fpp.pdf
http://thehandstand.net/archive/february-march2008/articles/greeks.htm
Those who have studied cannot help but see a repeat of the pattern of how Rome was brought down. Sonia the barmaid paralleled by Helena the mother of Constantine etc.
Only that now unlike the Hellenes we don't even have our Julian to even put up any resistance.
May the God's bless all Hindus with some wisdom, if you do not see after a 1000 years of atrocities by Muslims and Christians on us you never will.
Those opposing the bill seem to be more concerned about protecting the "Failed form of democracy" than about protecting the interests of people. I can't believe someone in the right mind can make a statement like however lousy the government is--its their job to make laws!... Yeah sure, laws with loopholes....the "common man" who has "not read" the janlokpal bill understands at least that the bill makes the politicians (who have risen to power through corrupt practices) answerable. And instead of ranting that people have not read the bill, PLEASE break this idea, by categorically stating HOW this bill if passed will NOT increase pressure and answer ability towards govt! I HAVE read the bill and I know that the bill makes the not-so-democratic government answerable! Lokpal bill is not being thrust down our throats--but the corrupt,undemocratic form of "democracy" is! We don't believe that India has "real democratic" elections or whether elections bring the right government to power---the losers in political scenario are not worth trusting--We want a third party to check them, who can in NO WAY benefit or make profits, or even make laws, but is there ONLY and exclusively to check corruption, and is independent from the people who are conducting business. The person who checks the government has to be INDEPENDENT from the government. And the bottom line is--its NOT about lokpal bill/ being parliamentary or not, its about US-the people of India, and what we want for ourselves--because parliament or anything is NOT more important than what we COLLECTIVELY want for ourselves!
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