and about those who mouth inanities like "all terrorists are mohammedans, but not all mohammedans are terrorists". that may be literally true, but even the non-terrorist mohammedans are happy to enjoy the benefits of what the terrorists do -- eg. they have happily swiped the properties of hindus (who are defined as enemy aliens) in bangladesh. in that case, two things:
1. they cannot complain when the acts of terrorists brings down the wrath of others on them (eg. when the israelis hit them with an artillery barrage)
2. they cannot claim they are innocent, because they never spoke up against the terrorists, and in effect are fifth-columnists of the terrorists, as all those who support the sleeper calls (aka 'kashmiri emporia') in india are
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: K
'Chasing a Mirage' by Tarek Fatah
http://www.ultracurrents.co.cc/ <http://www.ultracurrents.co.cc/>
Craig Read - Jan. 22, 2009
The great myth is that all Muslims are moderates and only a few extremists
tarnish the holy ideology called Islam. It is about as intelligent as saying
that for 3 generations from Bismarck to Hitler, all Germans were moderates,
more interested in brautwurst und bier, than in world supremacy and that the
great unwashed German mass of course did not support Germany's run of
dictators from 1865 to 1945. So it goes with Islam.
The benefit of Fatah's book is that is lays bare to ridicule the idea that
there is nothing inherently fascistic in political Islam, or that all
Muslims just want to be BMW owning tolerants. It is written by a leading
Canadian Muslim leader, a co-founder of the Muslim Canadian Council of
Toronto, and a person who struggles with fitting Islam into a
secular-tolerant Canadian society. And it is quite a struggle.
Fatah is a reformed Pakistani Marxist who rejects Islamic claims to world
domination, a one-world Umma, or the establishment of a new Caliphate to
safeguard Islam's destiny. Hence the title - Chasing an Illusion or the
fantasy of a new Muslim caliphate and the recreation of Islam's so-called
mythical golden age. For his trouble and rather considerable courage, he is
of course routinely vilified within the Muslim community with Muslim
sock-puppets and little minds denigrating his pro Western and liberal
attitude.
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RELATED STORIES:
Making of Unbeliever @
http://globeonline.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/making-of-an-unbeliever/
For Moderate Muslims @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avYtAyCxUbA&eurl=http://ibloga.blogspot.com/
Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Islam @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Wrhivp7eQ&mode=related&search=
Obsession @ http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/trailer-12min.php
From: K
'Chasing a Mirage' by Tarek Fatah
http://www.ultracurrents.co.cc/ <http://www.ultracurrents.co.cc/>
Craig Read - Jan. 22, 2009
The great myth is that all Muslims are moderates and only a few extremists
tarnish the holy ideology called Islam. It is about as intelligent as saying
that for 3 generations from Bismarck to Hitler, all Germans were moderates,
more interested in brautwurst und bier, than in world supremacy and that the
great unwashed German mass of course did not support Germany's run of
dictators from 1865 to 1945. So it goes with Islam.
The benefit of Fatah's book is that is lays bare to ridicule the idea that
there is nothing inherently fascistic in political Islam, or that all
Muslims just want to be BMW owning tolerants. It is written by a leading
Canadian Muslim leader, a co-founder of the Muslim Canadian Council of
Toronto, and a person who struggles with fitting Islam into a
secular-tolerant Canadian society. And it is quite a struggle.
Fatah is a reformed Pakistani Marxist who rejects Islamic claims to world
domination, a one-world Umma, or the establishment of a new Caliphate to
safeguard Islam's destiny. Hence the title - Chasing an Illusion or the
fantasy of a new Muslim caliphate and the recreation of Islam's so-called
mythical golden age. For his trouble and rather considerable courage, he is
of course routinely vilified within the Muslim community with Muslim
sock-puppets and little minds denigrating his pro Western and liberal
attitude.
... deleted
RELATED STORIES:
Making of Unbeliever @
http://globeonline.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/making-of-an-unbeliever/
For Moderate Muslims @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avYtAyCxUbA&eurl=http://ibloga.blogspot.com/
Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Islam @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Wrhivp7eQ&mode=related&search=
Obsession @ http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/trailer-12min.php
4 comments:
Sorry to see that you are reduced to posting garbage of this quality in your blog. And that too without comments. Some people might think you believe all this.
"The great myth is that all Muslims are moderates and only a few extremists
tarnish the holy ideology called Islam... "
I think you want to bad mouth more than you wan to win.
That simply demonises individuals who actually were victims of the religious teachings that made them susceptible to do the violent things they did, due to a combination of their unstable psyche and the wrong doctrinal positions of their religion.
Worse, such a whitewash also deprives us of a sustainable solution to the problem of religious extremism by failing to address the basic facts:
Fact one: all population pools have some unstable/susceptible/emotive individuals
Fact two: all population pools have people who hew closer to the doctrinal positions of their religion than most others who will be relaxed about it
Fact three: all population pools will have rich people who will use their money to build and sustain their power base and money, by whatever means possible
Fact four: all population pools will have the poor and the vulnerable, whose children are vulnerable to become the pawns of the rich and powerful by become foot soldiers/canon fodder for whatever cause they are indoctrinated in.
Based on such assumptions, I draw some conclusions.
1. The clergy of a religion is the most likely to hew closest to the extremal doctrinal position of that religion.
2.The extremal doctrinal positions of a religion directly determine the level of empowerment that the clergy will confer upon the fringe/fanatical segment of the practising population.
3. The potential for violence emanating from a religion is proportional to the level of empowerment of the fringe/fanatical segment perceives as having from the doctrinally inclined within their religion.
4. The potential for violence is translated most into action when such an empowered fringe/fanatic segment overlaps with the rich and powerful. (i.e. a theocratic state where the resources of the state are available for the use of the fringe/fanatic segment either because the fringe/fanatics are also the rich of that country- i.e. Iranor because they are supported and nurtured by the rich who are at the helm of the state i.e. Israel, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan)
Thus,one must examine the doctrinal positions of all religions in order to begin an assessment of the potential for violence from that religion.
And THAT is what proves that Islam is doctrinally the most inflexible and therefore has the greatest potential for violence.
This stuff these hating fools write has no quality. its just all hate, all the time. What a waste of breath!
you are one seriously disturbed character, aren't you? anti-semitic, dhimmi, pseudo-secular? you must be a communist. i am keeping you around on this blog for the light entertainment you provide. not one of your arguments has any merit, and they are all regurgitated 'wisdom' from the red-green axis.
aren't you embarrassed to be so transparently an apologist for bigotry, superstition, holy wars, etc?
and boy, are you going to be surprised when the greens shoot you down like a dog. they have no use for reds other than as 'useful idiots'. there was this great article i once posted on this blog about how the reds in the philippines offered their rusty vintage guns and their alleged superior guerilla tactics to the green insurgents. the mohammedans listened to them politely -- yeah, useful idiots they realized the reds were -- and then showed them their caches of modern light artillery pieces, which had reached via saudi largesse. and they laughed at the red 'tactics' -- all that wishful che guevara stuff (most entertaining considering that che himself was defeated in battle and executed in bolivia or something).
let's face facts, you reds are good at entertaining lots of people with your superior airs.
sorry buddy. Im an Aryan. 100%.
As you better than anyone should know.
Your claim to be a defender of Hinduism is going to ultimately rest on your vision of Hinduism - specifically whether it is the best.
I fight for Arya-varta still. you? oh yeah past disaster induces future psychosis-possibly claustrophobia.
And take it easy with the tough guy talk. You're not fooling me one bit. This is your blog.
One more immature attack on me and i will never post here again. Debate my logic if you can.
the only people who talk about this aryan business are a) communists, b) dmk types. both scum of the earth.
yes, this is my blog. and feel free to "never post here again". you have added no value whatsoever. you showed up and started beating up on jews. then you ranted and raved a bit.
so just buzz off. i don't need you to comment here as you add no value. typical of communists.
logic. hah! you wouldn't recognize logic if it were presented to you on a platter. nor sense.
you must be confusing me with someone who gives a damn about your opinions. no dice, bozo!
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