no wonder the kanchi swamiji has been target no. 1 for the crypto-christists of tamil nadu.
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From: Radha Rajan
Date: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Subject: Press statement of Pujya Sankaracharya Swami at the inter-faith dialogue with the Vatican in Mumbai on June 12, 2009
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Dear all, we have it on excellent authority that the inter-faith dialogue did not go as planned (by the Vatican and its Hindu apologists at home). We are told that no one except the religious leaders themselves and one or two persons two assist them in the dialogue were permitted in the hall. Pujya periava spoke as is characterisitc of him, in the softest tone possible, with the unfading smile never slipping from his face, in chaste Hindi. However as is obvious from the statement that he realeased to the Press and Media after the dialogue, it is obvious that the soft tone and chaste Hindi socked the gathering on the jaw. It is a good thing for Hindus that this time we had a man who knows his dharma and more importantly, like Sri Krishna, understands evil, spoke for this bhumi. RR
From: Radha Rajan
Date: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Subject: Press statement of Pujya Sankaracharya Swami at the inter-faith dialogue with the Vatican in Mumbai on June 12, 2009
To:
Dear all, we have it on excellent authority that the inter-faith dialogue did not go as planned (by the Vatican and its Hindu apologists at home). We are told that no one except the religious leaders themselves and one or two persons two assist them in the dialogue were permitted in the hall. Pujya periava spoke as is characterisitc of him, in the softest tone possible, with the unfading smile never slipping from his face, in chaste Hindi. However as is obvious from the statement that he realeased to the Press and Media after the dialogue, it is obvious that the soft tone and chaste Hindi socked the gathering on the jaw. It is a good thing for Hindus that this time we had a man who knows his dharma and more importantly, like Sri Krishna, understands evil, spoke for this bhumi. RR
The Points that Pujya Periava made at the inter-faith dialogue and was made into a press statement.
1.Exactly one month ago to the date, the Pope went to Jerusalem where Jesus was born, for a similar dialogue that the Vatican had undertaken with the Chief Rabbinate of Israel. At the end of that meeting when the Pope and Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzer jointly addressed the Press and Media, the Chief Rabbi thanked the Pope for assuring the Chief Rabbinate that the Catholic Church would desist and cease from all missionary and conversion activities among the Jews. This is construed as endorsed and agreed by the Pope since he was present at the press meet. We need a similar commitment from the Church for Hindus.
2. After such inter-faith meetings, the points agreed have to be faithfully abided. Otherwise there will be no point in holding such meetings. Unless the Church reassures Hindus that it will not conduct itself in a manner that wounds Hindu sensibilities and follows up on those assurances, such inter-faith meetings, no matter how frequently they are held, will be futile and not serve any meaningful cause.
3. In 1999, Pope Johan Paul II had stated that the mission of the Vatican was to plant the Cross in Asia in the third millennium to facilitate the Christianizing of the world, which alone would cause the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The Pope must tell us the rationale for the First Coming of Jesus Christ when there was no Christianity or the Church to undertake the mission to Christianize the world.
4. We see the USCIRF (US Commission on International Religious Freedom) as an intrusive mechanism of a foreign government to interfere in the internal affairs of this country. The USCIRF, which has been permitted to visit this country to hold meetings with our people to ascertain religious freedom in our country, must no longer be permitted to enter this country on this intrusive mission. We will not allow external interference into our internal affairs.
5. We know that very large amounts of money come into this country for Churches and Christian groups, ostensibly for charitable work. These funds should be used only for social causes like health, education etc and should not be used for religious conversion. During these dialogues, it should be agreed that the funds should be distributed to all Organisations who do charitable work, irrespective of the organisations' religious faith. A common pool should be created and a Committee formed to distribute and monitor the usage of these funds.
6. It has become easy for the Missionaries to convert Hindus. All Hindu Organisations and Associations should work together to educate Hindus and eradicate the conversion activity.
7. Hindu dharma is by nature diverse and so all different panthas and sampradayas co-exist on this bhumi without seeking to destroy the others. Hindu dharma has nurtured and supported all faiths and religions because that is the way of dharma. We expect that religions which have come into this bhumi from other lands will respect this vital characteristic of Hindu dharma and not do anything to subvert or disturb the sense of nationhood of this country. Hindu dharma and the Hindu people welcome Christians and Muslims, Parsis and Jews to make this land their home. We expect from these religions that they will not seek to destroy our faith, our religion and wound our religious sensibilities. We encourage all religions to live with mutual respect and harmony in a shared sense of nationalism which should bind us all as one nation. Nationalism should come first.
8. We are aware of the propaganda that they [the church] will cure diseases and ailments if the individual converts to their faith. This is illegal as per the DRUGS AND MAGIC REMEDIES ACT 1954 and we call upon the Indian government to take action under the provision of law.
9. Most of the countries in the world (USA, UK, Japan, Middle-east nations, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc.), adopt national resolutions and statements of intent proclaimed by their governments and their tallest religious bodies, affirming their determination to protect and defend the culture and the religion from which their cultures derive. In India alone we pass resolutions which officially and legally promote an irreligious and unspiritual creed called secularism. Secularism is an administrative quality; it cannot be the soul of this nation. The soul of this nation is religious and spiritual. We call upon our government and other important religious bodies to recognize this truth and affirm their commitment to protect the soul of this nation.
10. The Buddhist Mahasangha and the Joint Committee of Buddhist Organizations have declared their intention to get the Sri Lankan government to pilot and pass a national anti-conversion Bill and make it law. We welcome this move and strongly endorse this measure.
11. The Church in India must stop forthwith the use of Hindu religious words, phrases and symbols like Veda, Agama, Rishi, Ashrama, Om and other such in what is referred to as 'inculturation' tactics, but which are only intended to deceive the vulnerable sections of our people who are the intended targets for religious conversion. This is also insulting to and wounding the religious sensitivities of Hindus. Similarly it has been brought to our notice that some churches are scripting a new Bible for the new converts by usurping sections of our sacred Vedas, Upanishads and Puranas and incorporating them into the Bible. This must stop immediately and all such Bibles must be withdrawn from circulation. We urge the Indian government to look into the issue and do the needful.
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2. After such inter-faith meetings, the points agreed have to be faithfully abided. Otherwise there will be no point in holding such meetings. Unless the Church reassures Hindus that it will not conduct itself in a manner that wounds Hindu sensibilities and follows up on those assurances, such inter-faith meetings, no matter how frequently they are held, will be futile and not serve any meaningful cause.
3. In 1999, Pope Johan Paul II had stated that the mission of the Vatican was to plant the Cross in Asia in the third millennium to facilitate the Christianizing of the world, which alone would cause the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The Pope must tell us the rationale for the First Coming of Jesus Christ when there was no Christianity or the Church to undertake the mission to Christianize the world.
4. We see the USCIRF (US Commission on International Religious Freedom) as an intrusive mechanism of a foreign government to interfere in the internal affairs of this country. The USCIRF, which has been permitted to visit this country to hold meetings with our people to ascertain religious freedom in our country, must no longer be permitted to enter this country on this intrusive mission. We will not allow external interference into our internal affairs.
5. We know that very large amounts of money come into this country for Churches and Christian groups, ostensibly for charitable work. These funds should be used only for social causes like health, education etc and should not be used for religious conversion. During these dialogues, it should be agreed that the funds should be distributed to all Organisations who do charitable work, irrespective of the organisations' religious faith. A common pool should be created and a Committee formed to distribute and monitor the usage of these funds.
6. It has become easy for the Missionaries to convert Hindus. All Hindu Organisations and Associations should work together to educate Hindus and eradicate the conversion activity.
7. Hindu dharma is by nature diverse and so all different panthas and sampradayas co-exist on this bhumi without seeking to destroy the others. Hindu dharma has nurtured and supported all faiths and religions because that is the way of dharma. We expect that religions which have come into this bhumi from other lands will respect this vital characteristic of Hindu dharma and not do anything to subvert or disturb the sense of nationhood of this country. Hindu dharma and the Hindu people welcome Christians and Muslims, Parsis and Jews to make this land their home. We expect from these religions that they will not seek to destroy our faith, our religion and wound our religious sensibilities. We encourage all religions to live with mutual respect and harmony in a shared sense of nationalism which should bind us all as one nation. Nationalism should come first.
8. We are aware of the propaganda that they [the church] will cure diseases and ailments if the individual converts to their faith. This is illegal as per the DRUGS AND MAGIC REMEDIES ACT 1954 and we call upon the Indian government to take action under the provision of law.
9. Most of the countries in the world (USA, UK, Japan, Middle-east nations, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc.), adopt national resolutions and statements of intent proclaimed by their governments and their tallest religious bodies, affirming their determination to protect and defend the culture and the religion from which their cultures derive. In India alone we pass resolutions which officially and legally promote an irreligious and unspiritual creed called secularism. Secularism is an administrative quality; it cannot be the soul of this nation. The soul of this nation is religious and spiritual. We call upon our government and other important religious bodies to recognize this truth and affirm their commitment to protect the soul of this nation.
10. The Buddhist Mahasangha and the Joint Committee of Buddhist Organizations have declared their intention to get the Sri Lankan government to pilot and pass a national anti-conversion Bill and make it law. We welcome this move and strongly endorse this measure.
11. The Church in India must stop forthwith the use of Hindu religious words, phrases and symbols like Veda, Agama, Rishi, Ashrama, Om and other such in what is referred to as 'inculturation' tactics, but which are only intended to deceive the vulnerable sections of our people who are the intended targets for religious conversion. This is also insulting to and wounding the religious sensitivities of Hindus. Similarly it has been brought to our notice that some churches are scripting a new Bible for the new converts by usurping sections of our sacred Vedas, Upanishads and Puranas and incorporating them into the Bible. This must stop immediately and all such Bibles must be withdrawn from circulation. We urge the Indian government to look into the issue and do the needful.
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Strong demands by the Sankaracharya, and am happy to see the Sankaracharya make them, but why would the church sabotage its own successful enterprise? Also, how is this meeting going to be reported in the ELM, if at all?
An extract from a report full of obfuscation from ToIlet paper:
Seer-cardinal pact: No forced conversions
Each side had one main concern: for the Catholics it was violent attacks against Christians, the clergy and their places of worship and on the Hindu side it was the issue of forced conversions. Speaking at a joint press conference soon after the talks, Jayendra Saraswati said they had agreed that no violence should take place against minorities as India was a deeply spiritual country. He added that instead of being called 'secular', India should be called 'spiritual'.
Cardinal Oswald Gracias, who addressed the press with Jayendra Saraswati, came out strongly against forced conversions and said it went against the teaching of the Church.
While the broad brush strokes were all about bonhomie and building bridges, the fine print subtly but firmly established orthodox boundaries. The Kanchi Sankaracharya's press statement that was issued later contained eleven points, most of which were critical of conversion. He made a reference to the Pope's recent visit to Israel and his assurance that "the Catholic Church would desist from all missionary and conversion activities among the Jews." The Sankaracharya also made it clear that he did not approve of conversions and foreign funds for running educational and charity projects.
At the press conference, he came out strongly against the US Commission on International Religious Freedom, which was sending a team to India.
Speaking about the dialogue meeting, Bishop Thomas Dabre of Pune said that Cardinal Tauran had spelt out the agenda at the outset. How do we stop the spate of violence across the country and work more for understanding and development and deepen an inter-faith dialogue? Sudheendra Kulkarni, a senior BJP member who was present, said these are "beginnings which will pave the way for greater understanding."
Ref: Temples under non-Hindu control
Many times common people wring their hands in despair and express their helplessness against the entrenched anti-Hindu political class.
Hindu devotees can indeed take DIRECT ACTION.
1. While going to a temple, inquire whether the temple is under the control of the HR&CE Department / Devaswom Board / Devasthanam Board/. These Departments and Boards are controlled by Anti-Hindu “secular” politicians. E.g., Guruvayur Temple. PLEASE DO NOT PUT MONEY IN THE HUNDIS OF SUCH TEMPLES no matter how famous they are. However please do give money to the employees of the temples like poojaris, watch and ward staff and cleaners. Money put in the hundis of such alienated temples go straight to the treasury of the “secular” governments and such money will be doled out for Hajj committees, Christian-run schools and Muslim Madrassas. Even the Maulavis are given pension out of such temple funds.
2. Convince your relatives and friends not to give money to temples under the control of non-Hindus (temple boards controlled by “secular” politicians).
3. Please give money only to temples run by Hindus and encourage the administration to start schools and orphanages and to take over and re-establish dilapidated and ruined temples.
4. Please give money only to Hindu-run orphanages, old-age homes and schools for deprived children. Christians and Muslims will not give them anything.
5. Please inquire about the administration of Charities before giving donation. Do not give any money to Missionary charities like Child’s Relief and You, World Vision etc.
They will take your money and convert orphaned Hindu children into rabid Hindu-haters.
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