folks, sorry i have been traveling and a little sick, so i've been keeping away from the computer for a week or two. apologies for not letting you guys know.
HI Rajeev... HIndus always get taken for a ride cos the they seem to be a bunch of phoneys...They make Gods of everything that is probably benifecial to them n others they treat like crap... the only thing on their minds is how to trick the other guy n make some money. Look at bollywood ..the they live up to their phoney name by ripping off almost every single movie from an english or Tamil movie. Look at our reality show.. none of them have proper rules actually the aren't evern real as compared to shows like American idol. They lie Shemalessy to cover up their flaws in workplaces .. no integrity n a lowsy dirty attitude. ONly thing they can do well is blame the rest of the world for their plight.They flood Europian n american countries to make easy money, and then they crib abt bein gill treated which they deserve. Never seen a Hindu organisation stand for a geuine cause with intergrity.
I wonder why a Tamil person like "Stephen" here, who has amazing works such as the Tirukkural to his culture's name, would choose to saw off the very branch that has sustained him - i.e. his Indic cultural roots.
Or maybe he is just attributing some unattractive and culture-independent characteristics of ordinary individuals to a culture that does not support them, and in fact encourages that they be transcended.
Or maybe he is just attributing some unattractive and culture-independent characteristics of ordinary individuals to a culture that does not support them, and in fact encourages that they be transcended.
Religon is just a masquerade to satisfy the basic human needs Its no point promoting religon because all religons are just mentally stimulating bedtime stories. I dont understand the need to be a Hindu Nationalist when theere is nothing hindu abt being a nationalist. These are like 2 diff things. "HIndu Nationalist" to me just sounds like a nationalist who also believes in a bed time folklore called Ramayana. How different is it froma plain Nationalist. what does love for the country have to do with religon... i dont see anything HIndu abt justice equality and humanity. Well id call myself a TINTIN nationalist cause i believe TINTIN is the god who created mankind.What says??? Why dont u look beyond folklore.Religon is pure selfishness according to me. I understand the level of insecurity u have when faced by the islamist n christians as a threat.Its no unless the attitude of most of our politicians who are Hindus a.k.a "Phoneys" who love to live on bribes changes. Isn't writing articles to change such attitudes gonna be more strengthening for the outries than blaming the commies n chrstians n islamists for all ure misery.. that sounds like cowrdice to me.
Thats because i see things as they are. i never said anything against thiruvalluvar.. I Totally Agree that There have been a lot of Indians who have written amazing things abt life based on their experiences,some of them being Hindus. But is that what Todays Hindus follow.. the general attitude of todays HIndus does not reflect that
slim What makes u come to the conclusion abt me sawing off my roots. Why the hell should i have to be bothered roots in the first place. The only thing that im bothered about is how i can make things better here and now . that includes being an honest citizen. Obeying the rules of the government taking care of my parents n family n doing something for the underprevilaeged.In short being a good human being.Isnt this the crux of nationalism? Where does indic roots,thirukural and me being a tamilian n not a hindu fit in this.
Preface: Looks to me like you were eagerly waiting for Rajeev to get back so you could find an outlet and let your load off. Me thinks you chose a wrong time since a lot of us lurkers at Rajeev's blog haven't had much action lately (with no posts on this blog in some time) and might actually have been waiting for some outlet ourselves too (which might explain the length of my response)!
Let's get back to what you were cribbing about:
You Said: HIndus always get taken for a ride cos the they seem to be a bunch of phoneys...They make Gods of everything that is probably benifecial to them n others they treat like crap... the only thing on their minds is how to trick the other guy n make some money.
I Say: Hindus aren't a bunch of phoneys. This is probably the oldest of the true religions (and by true I mean Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism etc). So, simply, guys who follow this religion can't be phoney. You want phoney, look at christism. There is not one thing original in this religion. Want to hear the latest: go learn christist Yoga from some Christist tantric! The guy on whose name the religion was named wasn't even born on the day christians celebrate his birthday! Don't talk phoney with me!
You Said: Look at bollywood ..the they live up to their phoney name by ripping off almost every single movie from an english or Tamil movie.
I Say: Mr. Stephoney it's time to wake up and smell the coffee. Whatever gives you the impression that Bollywood is Hindu? It's like saying that Herr Max Muller and Abbe Dubois were working for the betterment of Hindus and India! Case in point is just a couple of recent movies. 'Dor' was just released, it had a Muslim woman coming to the rescue of a poor little Hindu widow who was being pimped by her Hindu Rajput father-in-law to a Hindu tenant staying in his house. Whereas the Muslim woman traveled from Himachal to Rajasthan with a Sikh truck driver (without even a dupatta on her head, leave alone a burka). Another movie (I think Fire) had two lesbians named "Radha" and "Sita". In this movie there is another scene where the servant is masturbating when Ramayan/Mahabarat is going on on the TV. If all this is Hindu cinema, I'm christist.
You Said: Look at our reality show.. none of them have proper rules actually the aren't evern real as compared to shows like American idol.
I Say: Having reality shows in Indian channels makes Hindus Phoney. Who said these channels are Hindu? Every heard about NDTV? Star? Ever seen their coverage on Gujarat riots? Ever heard Prannoy Roy, Barkha Dutt, Rajdeep Sardesai? I have Zee TV and most of the shows have Muslim anchors. Heard about "Jeena Isi Ka Naam Hai", "Shabaash India" ... You call these channels/shows Hindu? If these are Hindu then the two dead-body Saint Thomas is nobody but a Namboodari Brahmin whose relatives forgot to cremate him!
You Said: They lie Shemalessy to cover up their flaws in workplaces .. no integrity n a lowsy dirty attitude. ONly thing they can do well is blame the rest of the world for their plight.They flood Europian n american countries to make easy money, and then they crib abt bein gill treated which they deserve.
I Say: I work in an American company in America. It is a company listed in NasDaq and we have about 50-60% Indian (which means 50-55% Hindu) work force. Guess what, my experience has been terrible with the American workforce. Monday they don't work because of a weekend hangover, Tuesday they are sluggish, Thursday and Friday is already weekend and the two days after that are "Have a Good Weekend". Hindus on the other hand even work on the weekends. Maybe the reason the companies hire Indians (who are all Hindus) so enthusiastically is because they can extract much more work from them as opposed to Mr/Ms "Have a Good Weekend"s. If money you earn by becoming doctors/engineers is "easy money", you gotta find me an easier way Mr Stephoney. You want to see an American gora break your face? Go tell my boss/CEO that Indians "lie Shemalessy to cover up their flaws in workplaces" and have "no integrity n a lowsy dirty attitude". This should be sufficient to give you a couple of black eyes!
You Said: Never seen a Hindu organisation stand for a geuine cause with intergrity.
I Say: If standing for "a genuine cause with integrity" is to force hapless villagers, who've just had all their meager belongings swept away in a devastating Tsunami, to convert to Christism then dear Stephoney, you wouldn't find any such Hindu organisations. If standing for "a genuine cause with integrity" is to beat helpless leper children with belts (a la Saint Mother Theresa), you wouldn't find any Hindu organisations like the Missionaries of Charity. You might find some organisations like those run by Sri Sri Ravi Sankar, Bapu Asaram, Baba RamDev which are doing some good but not in your sense of good.
If a Tamil person can have a name Stephen then why can't a tamil person have a name Cing-Yee-Ling or Chow-Yun Fat what about a tamil guy called Takahashi Yakamura or maybe Josef Stalin or maybe Wolfgang Himmler. I mean why not? Is it because Stephen is a "Universal name" unlike those other phoney names. So if Chinese rule over Tamils for 100 years then will Tamils go around ith names like Yang Lee Tong? I mean when Muslims ruled over us now we have Tamils called Abdul Rehman - I dont know why the shyness and timidity why not go full fledged like Abu Musab Al Zarqawi? It might be that in old Thamizh (which is very superior unlike the stupid new Thanizh which does not have the same sweetness) the word Stephen meant Ste (useful) phen (idiot) - but then what would we know we are all phoneys after all.
But can someone please tell me what in God's name is going on with Aajtak, the Hindi news channel.
They just showed a sadhu/man being killed/mauled by an elephant. What kind of sick perverts show such footage 'as' and 'in' the news. No respect/dignity, nothing.
This is not the first time I have seen such sick news coverage on Aajtak. Every now and then, they show a sleazy type song and dance show. Like, the news is 'so and so sleazy or whatever show was held at so and so place' and then go on to show a good 30 min or so of the show as 'news'. What kind of sick perverts run Aajtak.
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HI Rajeev...
HIndus always get taken for a ride cos the they seem to be a bunch of phoneys...They make Gods of everything that is probably benifecial to them n others they treat like crap... the only thing on their minds is how to trick the other guy n make some money. Look at bollywood ..the they live up to their phoney name by ripping off almost every single movie from an english or Tamil movie. Look at our reality show.. none of them have proper rules actually the aren't evern real as compared to shows like American idol. They lie Shemalessy to cover up their flaws in workplaces .. no integrity n a lowsy dirty attitude. ONly thing they can do well is blame the rest of the world for their plight.They flood Europian n american countries to make easy money, and then they crib abt bein gill treated which they deserve. Never seen a Hindu organisation stand for a geuine cause with intergrity.
I wonder why a Tamil person like "Stephen" here, who has amazing works such as the Tirukkural to his culture's name, would choose to saw off the very branch that has sustained him - i.e. his Indic cultural roots.
Happy Mahashivaratri to you all.
Or maybe he is just attributing some unattractive and culture-independent characteristics of ordinary individuals to a culture that does not support them, and in fact encourages that they be transcended.
Or maybe he is just attributing some unattractive and culture-independent characteristics of ordinary individuals to a culture that does not support them, and in fact encourages that they be transcended.
Religon is just a masquerade to satisfy the basic human needs Its no point promoting religon because all religons are just mentally stimulating bedtime stories. I dont understand the need to be a Hindu Nationalist when theere is nothing hindu abt being a nationalist. These are like 2 diff things. "HIndu Nationalist" to me just sounds like a nationalist who also believes in a bed time folklore called Ramayana. How different is it froma plain Nationalist. what does love for the country have to do with religon... i dont see anything HIndu abt justice equality and humanity. Well id call myself a TINTIN nationalist cause i believe TINTIN is the god who created mankind.What says???
Why dont u look beyond folklore.Religon is pure selfishness according to me. I understand the level of insecurity u have when faced by the islamist n christians as a threat.Its no unless the attitude of most of our politicians who are Hindus a.k.a "Phoneys" who love to live on bribes changes. Isn't writing articles to change such attitudes gonna be more strengthening for the outries than blaming the commies n chrstians n islamists for all ure misery.. that sounds like cowrdice to me.
slim_shady...
Thats because i see things as they are. i never said anything against thiruvalluvar.. I Totally Agree that There have been a lot of Indians who have written amazing things abt life based on their experiences,some of them being Hindus. But is that what Todays Hindus follow..
the general attitude of todays HIndus does not reflect that
slim
What makes u come to the conclusion abt me sawing off my roots. Why the hell should i have to be bothered roots in the first place. The only thing that im bothered about is how i can make things better here and now . that includes being an honest citizen. Obeying the rules of the government taking care of my parents n family n doing something for the underprevilaeged.In short being a good human being.Isnt this the crux of nationalism? Where does indic roots,thirukural and me being a tamilian n not a hindu fit in this.
OK Stephen, Let's take it nice and slow...
Preface: Looks to me like you were eagerly waiting for Rajeev to get back so you could find an outlet and let your load off. Me thinks you chose a wrong time since a lot of us lurkers at Rajeev's blog haven't had much action lately (with no posts on this blog in some time) and might actually have been waiting for some outlet ourselves too (which might explain the length of my response)!
Let's get back to what you were cribbing about:
You Said: HIndus always get taken for a ride cos the they seem to be a bunch of phoneys...They make Gods of everything that is probably benifecial to them n others they treat like crap... the only thing on their minds is how to trick the other guy n make some money.
I Say: Hindus aren't a bunch of phoneys. This is probably the oldest of the true religions (and by true I mean Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism etc). So, simply, guys who follow this religion can't be phoney. You want phoney, look at christism. There is not one thing original in this religion. Want to hear the latest: go learn christist Yoga from some Christist tantric! The guy on whose name the religion was named wasn't even born on the day christians celebrate his birthday! Don't talk phoney with me!
You Said: Look at bollywood ..the they live up to their phoney name by ripping off almost every single movie from an english or Tamil movie.
I Say: Mr. Stephoney it's time to wake up and smell the coffee. Whatever gives you the impression that Bollywood is Hindu? It's like saying that Herr Max Muller and Abbe Dubois were working for the betterment of Hindus and India! Case in point is just a couple of recent movies. 'Dor' was just released, it had a Muslim woman coming to the rescue of a poor little Hindu widow who was being pimped by her Hindu Rajput father-in-law to a Hindu tenant staying in his house. Whereas the Muslim woman traveled from Himachal to Rajasthan with a Sikh truck driver (without even a dupatta on her head, leave alone a burka). Another movie (I think Fire) had two lesbians named "Radha" and "Sita". In this movie there is another scene where the servant is masturbating when Ramayan/Mahabarat is going on on the TV. If all this is Hindu cinema, I'm christist.
You Said: Look at our reality show.. none of them have proper rules actually the aren't evern real as compared to shows like American idol.
I Say: Having reality shows in Indian channels makes Hindus Phoney. Who said these channels are Hindu? Every heard about NDTV? Star? Ever seen their coverage on Gujarat riots? Ever heard Prannoy Roy, Barkha Dutt, Rajdeep Sardesai? I have Zee TV and most of the shows have Muslim anchors. Heard about "Jeena Isi Ka Naam Hai", "Shabaash India" ... You call these channels/shows Hindu? If these are Hindu then the two dead-body Saint Thomas is nobody but a Namboodari Brahmin whose relatives forgot to cremate him!
You Said: They lie Shemalessy to cover up their flaws in workplaces .. no integrity n a lowsy dirty attitude. ONly thing they can do well is blame the rest of the world for their plight.They flood Europian n american countries to make easy money, and then they crib abt bein gill treated which they deserve.
I Say: I work in an American company in America. It is a company listed in NasDaq and we have about 50-60% Indian (which means 50-55% Hindu) work force. Guess what, my experience has been terrible with the American workforce. Monday they don't work because of a weekend hangover, Tuesday they are sluggish, Thursday and Friday is already weekend and the two days after that are "Have a Good Weekend". Hindus on the other hand even work on the weekends. Maybe the reason the companies hire Indians (who are all Hindus) so enthusiastically is because they can extract much more work from them as opposed to Mr/Ms "Have a Good Weekend"s. If money you earn by becoming doctors/engineers is "easy money", you gotta find me an easier way Mr Stephoney. You want to see an American gora break your face? Go tell my boss/CEO that Indians "lie Shemalessy to cover up their flaws in workplaces" and have "no integrity n a lowsy dirty attitude". This should be sufficient to give you a couple of black eyes!
You Said: Never seen a Hindu organisation stand for a geuine cause with intergrity.
I Say: If standing for "a genuine cause with integrity" is to force hapless villagers, who've just had all their meager belongings swept away in a devastating Tsunami, to convert to Christism then dear Stephoney, you wouldn't find any such Hindu organisations. If standing for "a genuine cause with integrity" is to beat helpless leper children with belts (a la Saint Mother Theresa), you wouldn't find any Hindu organisations like the Missionaries of Charity. You might find some organisations like those run by Sri Sri Ravi Sankar, Bapu Asaram, Baba RamDev which are doing some good but not in your sense of good.
If a Tamil person can have a name Stephen then why can't a tamil person have a name Cing-Yee-Ling or Chow-Yun Fat what about a tamil guy called Takahashi Yakamura or maybe Josef Stalin or maybe Wolfgang Himmler. I mean why not? Is it because Stephen is a "Universal name" unlike those other phoney names.
So if Chinese rule over Tamils for 100 years then will Tamils go around ith names like Yang Lee Tong? I mean when Muslims ruled over us now we have Tamils called Abdul Rehman - I dont know why the shyness and timidity why not go full fledged like Abu Musab Al Zarqawi?
It might be that in old Thamizh (which is very superior unlike the stupid new Thanizh which does not have the same sweetness) the word Stephen meant Ste (useful) phen (idiot) - but then what would we know we are all phoneys after all.
Excuse me for butting in and posting off topic:
But can someone please tell me what in God's name is going on with Aajtak, the Hindi news channel.
They just showed a sadhu/man being killed/mauled by an elephant. What kind of sick perverts show such footage 'as' and 'in' the news. No respect/dignity, nothing.
This is not the first time I have seen such sick news coverage on Aajtak. Every now and then, they show a sleazy type song and dance show. Like, the news is 'so and so sleazy or whatever show was held at so and so place' and then go on to show a good 30 min or so of the show as 'news'. What kind of sick perverts run Aajtak.
Another article by Kaushik Basu.
He wrote something I found somewhat petty and offensive:
"India has not only broken away from the relatively slow Hindu rate of growth but may actually be entering into a Confucian growth path."
From other articles I have read by him, I wonder whether he likes Indian culture very much.
Hi buddy,
A small correction, it is Mahasivaratri not just Sivaratri.
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