Saturday, January 03, 2009

"you made me a bigot": chandrabhan

jan 3rd, 2009

there was a famous play in malayalam called "you made me a communist" (ningalenne communist aakki). if i remember right, it is about some oppressed peasant who, in desperation, becomes a heroic communist -- you know, the usual red propaganda.

along the same lines, "you made me a bigot".

in fact, it is the whites (the christists) and the reds (the communists) who are together creating intolerance among hindus.

nice post from chandrabhan. i am taking it from the comments section and reposting it here.

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When we are looking at the statements from Dhoti roys, Burkha dutts and Shrimati prakash Karat aka Brinda, we must look at few facts.
Whom to call a Liberal and who is a bigot. This is a question every Hindu( way of life i meant) must answer.

What is wrong with our culture/religion or way of life that we have become a Lamp post wherein every dog that comes around and needs to assert its presence goes on lifting its leg piss on it? How come right thinking and intelligent people can't call the bluff and see for themselves the farce that is continuing for so long. In my opinion this has roots in the invasions and subsequent rule of the foreigners. To be more precise it all started with the muslim rule and has continued with even more fervor during the british raj and now also.

How come we allow these moral guardians/politicians/commies/South Indian Rationalist parties to talk shit about Hindu brethren? How they blame and chide the hindus for this kind of behaviour? How they win elections and manage to sway the hindu majority even after bashing them? We still see a subsequent majority of Hindus agreeing with these jokers wherein these very guys have no balls to talk in a similar manner about Islamists, christian missionaries. we must find answers. If we look closely such subservient thought processes have been seen in all societies that have suffered the misfortune of being conquered and subjected to alien rule for some time. There are always people in all societies who confuse superiority of armed might with superiority of culture, who start despising themselves as belonging to an inferior breed and end by taking to the ways of the conqueror in order to regain self confidence, who begin finding faults with everything they have inherited from their forefathers, and who finally join hands with every force and factor which is out to subvert their ancestral society.

Viewed in this perspective, Pandit Nehru was no more than a self alienated Hindu, and Nehruism is not much more than Hindubaiting born out of and sustained by a deep seated sense of inferiority vis a vis Islam, Christianity, and the modern West.

centuries of muslim rule in medieval India had produced a whole class of such self alienated Hindus. They had interpreted the superiority of Muslim arms as symbolic of the superiority of Muslim culture. Over a period of time, they had come to think and behave like the conquerors and to look down upon their own people. They were most happy when employed in some Muslim establishment so that they might pass as members of the ruling elite. The only thing that could be said in their favour was that, for one reason or the other, they did not convert to Islam and merge themselves completely in Muslim society. But for the same reason, they had become Trojan horses of Islamic imperialism, and worked for pulling down the cultural defences of their own people.

The same class walked over to the British side when British arms became triumphant. They retained most of those and Hindu prejudices which they had borrowed from their Muslim masters, and cultivated some more which were contributed by the British establishment and the Christian missions. That is how the British rule became a divine dispensation for them. The most typical product of this double process was Raja Ram Mohun Roy. This joker maintained 2 houses one for Indians and another for Europeans( resplendent with European wives and butlers) and he courted the Europeans in this house. All thanks to the commie influenced education we read about him as a great saviour of Hinduism( as if all was bad before that). Every society has it's own horrific past - west had it's slave trade, burning of protestants alive. we never ever had slavery as an institution as we were a flowing religion, based on equality of human beings.

" Fortunately for Hindu society, however, the self alienated Hindu had not become a dominant factor during the Muslim rule. His class was confined to the urban centres where alone Muslim influence was present in a significant measure. The number of this bastard breed was few and far between in the countryside where Muslim rule had never struck strong roots. Secondly, the capacity of Islam for manipulating human minds by means of ideological warfare was less than poor. It worked mostly by means of brute force, and aroused strong resistance. Finally, throughout the period of Muslim rule, the education of Hindu children had remained in Hindu hands by and large. So the self alienated Hindu existed and functioned only on the margins of Hindu society, and seldom in the mainstream."

All this changed with the coming of the British conquerors and the Christian missionaries. Their influence was not confined to the urban centres because their outposts had spread to the countryside as well. Secondly, they were equipped with a stock of ideas and the means for communicating them which were far more competent as compared to the corresponding equipment of Islam. And what made the big difference in the long run was that the education of Hindu children was taken over by the imperialist and the missionary establishments. As a cumulative result, the crop of self alienated Hindus multiplied fast and several fold. Add to that the blitzkrieg against authentic Hindus and in favour of the selfalienated Hindus mounted by the Communist apparatus built up by Soviet imperialism.
It is no less than a wonder in human history that Hindu society and culture not only survived the storm, but also produced a counter attack under Maharshi Dayananda, Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurobindo and Mahatma Gandhi such as earned for them the esteem of the world at large. Even so, the self alienated Hindus continued to multiply and flourish in a cultural miliu mostly dominated by the modem West. And they came to the top in the post independence period when no stalwart of the Hindu resurgence remained on the scene.

What is required in todays scenario is a moral equivalent of Swami Vivekanad who rouses the spirit of this great civilisation and make them believe in the greatness of the thought that makes us so unique. When I look at this and analyse what Bajrang dal is doing or has done,I am forced to ask this question. What's wrong being a hardline Hindu? I am proud of my heritage and will protect it at whatever cost. I don't need a certificate of being cultured from west minded/ leftist/ rationalists. I will make all out efforts to redeem my society of the ills and bring dignity to all even though I have no god in heart and mind.

I am ready to be a Bigot.

As for action by israel, I am all for it and I have mentioned many times, Terror can only be met with greater terror. Coward Dhimmis need to rooted out by not fighting with them but laughing at them - talking about stars and moon when they talk about oppression by bigoted hindus against Moslems. Talk about their sex lives, ask them , are they frustrated with their sex lives etc etc...

11 comments:

Kanhoji said...

Rajeev, what is the link to this article? Could you put it down please....i'm guessing that this is the same Chandrabhan who regularly writes in the Daily Pioneer.

Also is your email add still rajeevdotsrinivasanattherategmaildotcom.

If not, could you please give me a contact email ID of yours. Much appreciate all the amazing work that the Shadow Warrior bunch is doing in raising awareness on Hindu issues.

Sushil

sushilem@yahoo.com

Incognito said...

Good Post,
One small addition -
The stronger of the Hindus who dared to oppose the Muslims and subsequently, the British were killed by them. So what was left were the more docile ones. And they brought up their children in their fashion.

A lot of Hindus, when confronted with these truths, go into denial mode or rationalising and questioning the person who brings these truths to the fore.

Adding MK Gandhi to the list of Hindu greats is .. something I do not see justified.
Perhaps, Mr Chandrabhan knows the reasons which I am not aware of.

Ghost Writer said...

this is not the same chandrabhan who writes for the Pioneer - that man is actually quite anti-hindu (and secretly pro christist actually). this chandrabhan is a reader on this blog - excellent analysis by him

wish there was ONE pro-hindu film makers in Bollywood - it would be a good theme. anyone remember the film Gardish starring Amrish Puri and Jackie Shroff - shows how a man become an outlaw very reluctantly; the same theme can be applied here with very good results.

Sujeev said...

Hmmmmm. Very close to what I've figured out for myself.

So everyone's aware of this, but how does one reverse the trend (ever since Hindu contact with Islam & European?? Christianity) of erosion of Hindu numbers, strength, selfconfidence, knowledge even? (There's hardly a Chaturvedi these days, who has even a rudimentary knowledge of the vedas :-);-). In a little while I suppose it will be difficult to find a Chaturvedi who can even name them.)

In the face of all that's happening in Hindu society today, how does one come up with a focused, coordinated, coherent strategy that leads to the gradual erosion, and eventual extinguishing, on the subcontinent, of islam & christianity, along with other ideologies hostile to Indic thought, in which subcontinental adherents of such ideologies are themselves complicit in the demise of these distracting, destructive, influences, paving the way for their eventual return to the Hindu fold?

Damn! I only have questions. Wish I had the answers to my own questions. Sigh!

Brahamvakya said...

Incognito,
It may sound as an irony to many of my nationalist friends but I have deep admiration for gandhiji for the revival of Sanatan as a thought. With he strength of moral character he made people realise the spiritual aspect of the indigenous culture. The efforts to root out caste system, emphasis on dignity of labour,specially his views on conversions as an evil shook british/islamist stooges to the spiritual and all encompassing nature of sanatan. The hrlped a great deal busting the myth created around western culture as superior - " Western civilisation? well, that's a good thought".
During the Khilafat support to muslim leaders maulana brothers - Mohammed ali and shaukhat ali likened Gandhiji to Jesus christ and even wept at his feet. Later on they said few stupid things also that even if Gandhiji was a christ, he was still inferior to a muslim theif as islam as a religion does not permit accepting any non-muslim as superior. This brought out the fallacy of islam and faith in hinduism became more steadfast. This considerably made people in west take notice of Gandhiji and sanatan as a far more intellectual way of life then what was propagated as ancient Pagan culture.
Gandhiji for me remain an enigmatic person who did a lot for revival of Hinduism. We definately need more like him.

Brahamvakya said...

GW,
I am common Indian who is deeply anguished at the stupidity of my brethren. I read this blog and like the points raised.

chandrabhan

Itsdifferent said...

I am amazed at one more disturbing fact. There are quite a lot of blogs that have come up in Tamil Nadu (same would be true elsewhere, I guess). In those blogs, even among the Hindu writers there is so much of hindu bashing. I think they were fed the shit from Dravidian and "The Hindu" culture.
Like we are fighting for the CA text books, I think we should start a fight to correct Indian text books as well.

Incognito said...

@ Chandrabhan,
Well ... I am not convinced about Gandhi ...
It may happen, that a person changes over time, especially when he is considered as super-human or Mahatma... also, as a person grows older, i.e, when he is in his eighties... and his ideals and clarity of thought may get influenced by the adulation and reverence he recieves from public ... perhaps cause him to take a stubborn stand at times and lose sight of the whole picture ...

There is no doubt that he contributed significantly towards freedom movement and to some extent towards alleviating condition of untouchables.

Gandhi towards the end of freedom struggle was almost without equal in the Congress - Subhash Bose and such more aggressive people had died or left Congress well before that. When a person supposedly having 'Mahatma' qualities has such huge influence, one would have expected a better outcome to the freedom struggle - not the bloody partition and large number of deaths. That he was an enigmatic figure and powerful personality there is no doubt.

Swami Vivekananda and Sri Aurobindo of around the same time period and Sri Ramakrishna Paramahansa earlier, among many others have spread the Vedic truths.

Gandhi's non-violence is rather against what Gita teaches ...
Even if one considers that Krishna was talking of Kshatriya dharma in Gita and Gandhi was not Kshatriya, the philosophy of non-violence was propagated by Buddha and Mahavira.

I am reminded of the story of snake who embraced this philosophy and refused to attack the children who tortured it. A Sanyasi who passed by advised the snake that it should have protected itself by showing its fangs so that the children would fear it and stop their torture.
Did the British leave India because they were shamed by Gandhi's non-violence ? or was it because they were weakened by WWII that exercising control over colonies was not possible which would explain why imperialism stopped all over the world at that time.
What would Gandhi have done if somebody tried to molest his kin ...

But these are just my thoughts. I respect your right to your conclusions. And I also accept that I could be mistaken with certain facts.
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Rather unrelated to Gandhi, here are two interesting articles -
Francois Gautier cries for India
http://kerala.cn/news&views/cry_my_beloved_india.htm

Smt Sasikala Teacher speaks -
http://kerala.cn/news&views/cry_my_beloved_india.htm

R.Sajan said...

Nowhere else in the world, and nowhere in the pages of history do we witness such subjugation to the minority, as we see with India. Why does this happen? Why do we always succumb to inferior thoughts and cultures? Is it because of racial inferiority? Is there something in us that makes us always feel guilty to be ourselves?

Or is it plainly because you get more money and recognition if you are traitrous?

Anti-Brahminism is there because Brahmins claim infallibilty and try to assume divine authority, even in these times of universal knowledge.

Incognito said...

The correct address of Smt Sasikala Teacher's speech is
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=7945&SKIN=C

Anonymous said...

Anti-Brahminism is there because Brahmins claim infallibilty and try to assume divine authority, even in these times of universal knowledge.
Could you find an accusation that is not thrown at Brahmins , were they rapists? did they steal money and keep in temples ? Did you read that book on how they colluded with the Kshyatriys ? Did they work or were parasites ? the devine - thats a graceful accusation?

I think maximum accusations are thrown at Sri Krishna...People complain and curse all the time...Problem is not accusations, Brahmins of kaliyuga managed english education and rationalism for a generation or two...thats their falliability.

FYI: Brahmins didn't have anything to claim infallibility, if one claimed it then it is because of his confidence in the world and his conversion to these ideas of so called universal knowledge.




but also produced a counter attack under Maharshi Dayananda, Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurobindo and Mahatma Gandhi


Except Aurobindo, none of the above three criticized foundations western attacks. They didn't blunt the western attack...They just found a different formulation to divert the attack partially .... and the western countries at that time didn't have a lot of philosophies, they were trading slaves.

Many of their followers are clueless about those universal formulations. Gandhians were so confused that they loaned themselves to left as quickly as possible.