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Fwd: [New Post] Fr. Victor Ferrao: No Hindus in Goa before the arrival of the Portuguese – Mayabhushan Nagvenkar

this is the new history. in kerala too, christists are now claiming that they were the original inhabitants of the state and that hindus came in later.

given the christists' marketing abilities, they will eventually make this 'the truth by repeated assertion'.

just as they have established the non-existent jesus as a 'fact', and the non-existent arrival of 'st' thomas in kerala as a 'fact.

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Fr. Victor Ferrao: No Hindus in Goa before the arrival of the Portuguese – Mayabhushan Nagvenkar

Posted on July 14, 2013 

Rachol Seminary in Goa

 Fr. Dr. Victor FerraoIn BJP-ruled Goa, a leading Christian theologist from the influential Roman Catholic Church has claimed that 'Hindus' did not exist in region during the pre-Portuguese era.

Fr. Victor Ferrao, a dean at the state's most renowned Rachol Roman Catholic seminary, which trains and grooms budding priests has also said in his research paper that the scores of temples demolished by the Portuguese colonists from 15th century onwards were not Hindu temples, but instead belonged to different "independent cults and religions which were often at war with each other".

Ferrao in his paper presented at a recent seminar, "Challenge of being a Goan Christian", held [in Panaji], said that by painting of pre-colonial Goa as Hindu territory, "there is a direct attempt to turn the historical facts about conversion against the Church and the Christians of today".

The renowned Church academic in his research paper even goes a step further and attributes political motives to the "reductionist and distortionist" appropriation of Goa's history by Hindu-logists.

A leading Christian theologist from the influential Roman Catholic Church has claimed that 'Hindus' did not exist in region during the pre-Portuguese era. 

"I have described these attempts as Hindu-ology. In fact even the word Hindu does not exist in the entire sixteenth century Indo-Portuguese historiography," his paper titled 'The Other Orientalism and the Challenge and Opportunities for the Church in Goa' reads.

Chief Minister of Goa, Manohar ParrikarThe revelations in the research paper come at a time when the BJP has been trying to cosy up with the Church in Goa, which is the spiritual and religious beacon to nearly one-third of Goa's population which is Catholic and a key vote bank.

In fact, tacit support of the Goa Church, although its spokesperson later categorically denied any truck with the BJP in the 2012 assembly polls, was one of the key reasons why the BJP swept the elections, apart from an unprecedented eight Catholic candidates which the party had fielded.

The Catholic swing towards the BJP ensured that the party romp home with a majority on its own, an unheard of electoral feat in Goa, where a hotch-potch of results is the norm.

However, the issue of Goa's chequered religious past before the advent of the spices and Christian-seeking Portuguese has also been a matter of debate.

A large section of authors and historians have insisted that Goa has been described in ancient texts as a land reclaimed by Sage Parshurama, an avatar of Lord Vishnu, from the sea and that the state known for beaches, booze, nightlife, sex tourism and drugs now, was once called 'Konkan Kashi' or Benaras of the South.

A view which was endorsed by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, which during a conclave held here in 2000, released a six page brochure on the subject.

Francis Xavier"Goa, even four decades after liberation, is misguidedly projected as the Rome of the East, particularly in tourism – by government and non-government agencies. But Goa is the Kashi of the west coast India…. The Portuguese are not the makers but destroyers of Golden Goa," the brochure read.

Ferrao, in his research paper, a copy of which is available with Firstpost, however insists that such obfuscation stemming from political motives, was one of the key reasons why Christians in Goa now have to "lay claim to their own history" in the pre-Portuguese era.

"It important to assert that we have not come from Hinduism of today, but the then fragmented cults that today have been steadily assimilated into Hinduism of today," Ferrao said, quoting noted historian Romila Thapar to back his treatise.

Ferrao said that the claims of forced conversions and demolishing of temples during the early Portuguese era were essentially to be found only in "narratives of the post-colonial historiography mainly authored by the Hindu historians in our days".

"Though the temples that were demolished were not Hindu, but one(s) that belonged to different cults that have united into Hinduism of today, the Hindu community is certainly carrying the pain of this false impression," the paper reads.

The paper further says that both the Hindu religion and nationalism are a product of colonisation, adding that to reduce pre-Hindu religions, cults or sects and their unification under Hinduism in the 19th century amounted to an "epistemological" error.

P.P. ShirodkarSeveral other scholars, however, tend to disagree with Ferrao's argument.

P. P. Shirodkar, who has authored several books on Goa's history, says in research paper "Social  and Cultural Life in Goa during the 16th Century" says: "At the time of the fall of Goa in the hands of the Portuguese, its population, majority of whom were Hindus, followed by the Muslims mostly on military duty continued to live in villages with its agricultural communities". He further says that villagers in Goa followed the Hindu law of inheritance.

In a book Goa and Portugal: Their Cultural Links edited by Charles J. Borges and Helmut Feldmann and published by the Xavier Centre of Historical Research (XCHR), Archana Kakodkar argues that Hindus "were a very self-conscious community".

"For historic reasons, Hindus in Portuguese India were a very self-conscious community. The impact of the Portuguese rule, destruction of Hindu temples and the subsequent policy of conversion further enhanced this awareness," she says.

Paul Axelrod and Michelle A. Fuerch, scholars from Ripon College in Wisconsin write in Modern Asian Studies, a journal published by the Cambridge University Press in 1996 that there was a pronounced "Hindu resistance" to Portuguese colonial designs.

"The focus of this article will be on Hindu resistance to the policies that were applied by the colonial regime and its role in shaping of the regional culture: in face of over-whelming physical force, direct defiance revealed itself primarily in the religious life of Hindu Goa Shanta Durga Templeas archival records of the Portuguese rule and temple histories demonstrate," the duo says in their research paper titled "Flight of Deities: Hindu Resistance in Portuguese Goa".

Ferrao, however, claims that Christians living in Goa had forgotten their origins (that they were part of independent cults and religions) and "are wounded and continue to be victims of the aggression of their Hindu counterparts".

Ferrao has also called for a therapeutic dialogue between the two communities living in Goa.

"There is an inevitable need of dialogue that can heal wounded memories in our society," he said.

Christians account for nearly 30 per cent of Goa's 15 lakh plus population. –FirstPost, 13 July 2013

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  1. The Goan Christian identity is in crisis and Fr. Victor has been employed by the Church to save it. He does this by pretending that there were no Hindus in Goa prior to the arrival of the Portuguese!

    His argument is silly and graceless. He even calls on an old Marxist historian to support his borrowed Marxist theory that there has never been such an entity as the Hindu religion. The Marxist mantra is: There is nothing Hindu in Hindustan and nothing Indian in India. According to them everything of value in Indian civilization came from outside, from some place beyond the pale of Sindh. Now Fr. Victor has copied it and added his bits and pieces.

    Goa was home to the most traditional and learned of Brahmin communities, the Saraswats. They worshipped classical Hindu dieties like Shiva, Durga, and Ganesha. When the temples of these Gods were destroyed by the Portuguese, the Saraswats moved them inland to Ponda and built new temples that looked like churches. This was to protect the deities from further depredations by the Portuguese. Many of the Saraswats migrated to Mangalore to escape the extraordinarily cruel and vindictive laws of the Portuguese.

    Francis Xavier, an advocate of forced conversions, had introduced the concept that Brahmins were the most wicked and treacherous of men, and the Saraswats were the first Brahmin community to feel the full weight of this evil message. See SRG's monograph on Xavier here.

    Portuguese rule in Goa was so violent and cruel that Portugal's European colonial allies didn't want to know about it. Voltaire wrote about the Inquisition that Xavier had invited to Goa:

    "Goa is sadly famous for its Inquisition, equally contrary to humanity and commerce. The Portuguese monks made us believe that the people worshipped the devil, and it is they who have served him."

    If for the sake of argument we accept Fr. Victor's contention that there were no Hindus in Goa when the Portuguese arrived, only various warring sects and cults, does this excuse the destruction of upwards of 20,000 temples by the Catholic Church and its secular arm the Portuguese?

    Fr. Victor is a casuist, an intellectual cheat. He should be laughed at, not honoured. Indeed, he should stay away from Indian history writing, return to his famous seminary and engage himself with the nuns and pretty altar boys. This is what Catholic priests do best today, not writing spurious histories of their conquered Hindu territories.

    All Goan Catholics are the children of Hindus who were forcefully converted to Christianity in the 16th and 17th centuries. If they have an identity problem today, then it can be easily solved by having them return to their original Hindu culture and religion.

    Here is a first hand account of the Goa Inquisition:

    An account of the Inquisition at Goa, in India (1819) by Gabriel Dellon, b. 1649 & Archibald Bower, 1686-1766.

  2. Balaji, on July 14, 2013 at 8:27 AM said:

    It is high time a genuine contradiction is written from the Hindus to bring out the truth. Nowadays, it has become a fashion to produce trash in the name of research, and undoubtedly Indian Christian preachers are leading the way shamelessly!

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