jul 9th, 2006
i have always maintained that temples are not places for tourism. if a temple has its rules, they are to be respected.
the other fact that does not get any airplay in all this sabarimala-bashing is that the place welcomes all men, including mohammedans and christists. there is even a shrine to a mohammedan on the sabarimala hills.
of course, christists set fire to the shrine in the 1950s, as it was interfering with their plans to grab the land.
in the 1990s, christists suddenly 'discovered' a '2000-year-old' wooden cross that had been buried by 'saint' thomas. quite intriguing, and another miracle that the thomas who had never come to india had managed to -- no doubt by teleportation from palestine -- bury this cross. even more of a miracle that it had survived intact for 2000 years in the humidity of kerala.
also, christists invited the chief priest of sabarimala to visit one of their churches. the poor man, being undeceitful, did visit the church. the chrisists video-taped this and started distributing the tape to people saying, 'see, your priest came to church. since the chief priest at sabarimala came to the church, you should all convert'.
all those who holler for hindu temples to change also have no answer as to why hindu temples are being bulldozed in pakistan, malaysia etc; why no temples are allowed in saudi arabla; and why no non-mohammedan is allowed within miles of the kaaba in mecca. their usual answer will be that these 'oppressed' 'minority' mohammedans are allowed to do whatever they want.
similarly, they will have no answer as to why there is exactly one dalit convert in a high position in the indian church after '2000' years of the church being in india and all these loud professions of equality in christism. (actually the first christists to arrive in india were thomas of canaa and other refugees from syria in about 400 CE). but no, nobody can ask questions of the church, as they are 'oppressed' 'minorities'
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8 comments:
The other day I saw one over enthusiastic media woman asking "why only men? why cant women enter this temple? why this discrimination against women?are we living in a civilised society? isnt this 2006AD? "
why doesnt that b*tch ask the same question to some mohammedan or imam? why arent women allowed into Mosques? well..she will be raped and pelter at if she asks that...we all know about the great Hindu tolerance( read meekness).
"Among all such dogma that abounds in this country, the worst is denying women equality – be it worship at temples, right over property, or something as common as keeping them away as impure during menstruation."
--- My protest too. Ayyappa has a certain story around him. The story was honored and hence women were kept away. Not on grounds of "inequality".
I was deeply distressed to see a non-Hindu TV anchor gather a bunch of women from all religions and criticize the sabarimala issue as an "inequality" issue.
It is NOT an inequality issue. It is honoring a certain belief about the deity there.
Women are not banned from other temples.
And who said women are considered "impure during menstruation" by Hindus. This is just propaganda.
As a woman, I want to assert, that as much as we wouldnt carry a rotting body inside a temple, one would not like to carry rotting blood inside a temple. Plus, it creates it's own state of pranic unhealth around the body, which those who understand would rather not take inside the temple.
That doesnt mean "we consider a woman impure during menstruation".
This is my protest against such outcries which are based on a lack of understanding of rationale (thanks, someone), but simply based on the "equality/inequality" principle.
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"so ayyappa is not really allergic to women."
----The 41 day vritham that pilgrims undergo includes celibacy.
If at the end of it, these men encounter women at the shrine, what is the use of their vritham which they undertake with so much discipline and faith (because they consider God in the form of Ayyappa as celibate) ?
it would only make a total mockery of their Vritham.
cant we leave respect their faith and devotion and leave the poor pilgrims alone ?
cant that mohammedan TV anchor do something better with her TV anchor time, such as protesting against MF Hussain's making a mockery of Hindu gods/goddesses, instead of instigating Hindu women against their own religion ? How come she never encourages people of her faith to paint prophet M nude ?
Why are Hindus a convenient target for her criticism ?
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addendum:
"If at the end of it, these men encounter women at the shrine, or have to take their womenfolk along......"
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please find out and let us know.
it is not ok to only post criticism and challenges here. no one would be interested in continuing to respond to that.
obviously if you come here only to question, criticize and challenge, you would considered unwanted, and hence by the terminology used here, "a troll".
Troll = non-contributory critic (rude or not rude).
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My guess is that since women are not allowed to go to the big shrine, lesser shrines are created where they can go.
And since women go there, vritham is not applicable to those shrines.
Brilliant people should not need to ask trivial questions here.
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Albert Einstein (which is what you called yourself), Since you are Albert Einstein, Albert Einstein
cannot ask questions here. Doesnt he have enough genius ?
Or is his genius limited to finding out other names for aliases here and posting them here ?
I defined troll as commonly and conventionallu understood here, and said that in future, we can
all ignore you.
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The kind of genius that vamanan is exhibiting here, as seen in the above act of digging out another name i used here, is not something one can look up to and admire.
it is cheap, unprincipled and malicious.
and it certainly reflects on his very bad upbringing.
he was actually preaching and criticizing that our behaviour reflect's our parents upbringing.
i hope there are many of us who frown down on such behaviour and not allow this vamanan to continue posting here.
i happen to know "Kaalan"'s other name, but have told him i will not mention it since he has chosen some other name. I still honor that.
I am extremely proud of the upbringing my parents and other teachers gave me.
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