this is why pakistan banned facebook!
my, my, but we *are* sensitive, aren't we? n.
manmohan is surely spending another sleepless night. i wonder if obama is, too.
when the sainted ibrahim hooper says he's upset, of course manmohan has to listen.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ravi
From: Ravi
Namaste,
Here is the Face Book link for the group "EVERYBODY Draw Mohammed Day" --- which has 90,000 members and growing fast.
Please join the group and circulate to your friends and support freedom of speech !!! We need atleast 100,000 members.
Today (May 20) is the official "EVERYBODY Draw Mohammed Day".
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From: Dorrie O'Brien <dorrie@peakpeak.com>
Date: Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Subject: Fwd: Our "ally," the Islamic Republic of Pakistan blocks YouTube and Facebook in name of Islam
To: dorrie@peakpeak.com
From: Dorrie O'Brien <dorrie@peakpeak.com>
Date: Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Subject: Fwd: Our "ally," the Islamic Republic of Pakistan blocks YouTube and Facebook in name of Islam
To: dorrie@peakpeak.com
Highlighting done by Carl of AZ, not me, but I agree with all of it.---DOB.
By Richard Allen Greene, CNN
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
(CNN) -- Pakistan on Thursday blocked access to YouTube -- a day after it shut down the social networking site Facebook -- in response to an online group calling on people to draw the Prophet Mohammed.
The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority ordered operators to shut down YouTube "in view of growing sacrilegious contents on it," officials said in a statement. [NOTE: Religious Moslems cannot tolerate freedom of speech when it comes to Islam. The Moslem leaders are rightfully afraid that Moslems will question their slavish obedience to Allah and Muhammad if they see other people making fun of Allah and Muhammad.]
PTA said Thursday it reached its decision after all "possible avenues were used within its jurisdiction, including using regular channels available on the Facebook and YouTube to launch protest, to avoid appearances of derogatory material available on their Web sites."
Facebook was blocked a day before "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day," which was scheduled by several Facebook groups with the same name.
The largest of the groups appeared to be unavailable for several hours Wednesday and Thursday, but Facebook said it had not taken the page down, and it was online as of Thursday morning Eastern time.
"Obviously (the blocking of Facebook) is related to the objectionable material that was placed on Facebook. That is why it is blocked," said Khoram Ali Mehran of the telecommunication authority.
"We have blocked it for an indefinite amount of time. We are just following the government's instructions and the ruling of the Lahore High Court. If the government decides to unblock it, then that's what we will do," he said. [NOTE: This is one reason why the name of the country is not "Pakistan", but "The Islamic Republic of Pakistan."
The telecommunication authority has not received any complaints from Internet users about the Facebook group, he said.
Devout Muslims consider it offensive to depict Mohammed. [NOTE: Again, the journalists do not understand the issue. The issue is not the mere depiction of Mohammad which is a question of idolatry. There is no danger whatsoever of non-Moslems idolizing Muhammad. The issue here is blasphemy, that is, the non-reverential, "insulting" depiction of Muhammad. Under Islamic law, this is a crime punishable by death.]
There were riots around the world in response to a series of cartoons of Mohammed in a Danish newspaper in 2005, and at least two European cartoonists live under police protection after publication of their drawings of the Muslim prophet. [NOTE: "All around the world"? What does this say about the notion that the problem with Islam comes from only a tiny minority of extremists who misinterpret their religion???]
Mimi Sulpovar, who started one of the Facebook groups, said she read about the idea on a blog after Comedy Central bleeped out part of an episode of "South Park" that mentioned the prophet.
"This is meant to be in protest," she said.
"This is something I have felt strongly about for a long time: Bullying by certain Muslim groups will not be tolerated in a free country," said Sulpovar, who is American.
But Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the idea behind the group was offensive. [NOTE: According to standard sharia law, it is a crime to offend Moslems.]
"Islam discourages any visual representations of the prophets of God -- Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, anybody -- because we believe it can lead to a form of idol worship," he said. [NOTE: Pure Moslem deception! See comment above about the difference between idolatry and blasphemy.]
"The majority of Muslims worldwide object to any representation of a prophet of God," he added.
The idea of "Draw Mohammed Day" originated with a cartoonist who has since distanced herself from the idea, Sulpovar and Hooper said.
"The whole campaign has been taken up by Muslim-bashers and Islamophobes," Hooper said.
But Sulpovar denied being anti-Muslim.
"This extends beyond being able to draw Mohammed," she said. "If it's offensive to you, that's fine, but I don't feel it's right to impose your belief on others through intimidation.
"This is nothing to do with hate or bigotry," she said. "Nobody is inciting violence or preaching open hatred towards individuals."
Sulpovar said she is not a Muslim but added that she had received "hundreds of e-mails from people trying to explain this to me."
One group member said she saw anger and fear on both sides of the controversy but felt that free speech could not be compromised.
"This is a hot-topic debate, but so is abortion, illegal immigrants, gay marriage and politics. If we allow even a small compromise for one group, then the free speech on topics like abortion, illegal immigrants and politics can also be censored based on accusations that they cause violence or hate," Autumn Meadows said on CNN's iReport.
"Hate speech is wanting a group eradicated, physically harmed or dead. I don't think drawing Mohammed falls under that category," she said.
"Islam is not above criticism or cartoons. I believe in equality, and censoring Mohammed while we can draw every other figure in the world does not equal equality," she concluded.
Sulpovar said Pakistan's decision to block Facebook was "ridiculous."
Facebook is investigating the block, said Debbie Frost, the company's director of global communications.
Sulpovar's group had attracted more than 9,000 fans as of Thursday morning. The page which disappeared briefly had more than 80,000 fans.
Groups opposing the idea had about 68,000 fans as of Wednesday.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/pakistan.mohammed.day.facebook/index.html?hpt=T2
Pakistan blocks YouTube, Facebook over 'sacrilegious content'
By Richard Allen Greene, CNN
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
- Pakistan blocks access to YouTube, a day after imposing Facebook ban
- "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" urges users to submit drawings of Mohammed
- Devout Muslims consider it offensive to depict Mohammed
- Telecommunications official says Facebook blocked on government's orders
(CNN) -- Pakistan on Thursday blocked access to YouTube -- a day after it shut down the social networking site Facebook -- in response to an online group calling on people to draw the Prophet Mohammed.
The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority ordered operators to shut down YouTube "in view of growing sacrilegious contents on it," officials said in a statement. [NOTE: Religious Moslems cannot tolerate freedom of speech when it comes to Islam. The Moslem leaders are rightfully afraid that Moslems will question their slavish obedience to Allah and Muhammad if they see other people making fun of Allah and Muhammad.]
PTA said Thursday it reached its decision after all "possible avenues were used within its jurisdiction, including using regular channels available on the Facebook and YouTube to launch protest, to avoid appearances of derogatory material available on their Web sites."
Facebook was blocked a day before "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day," which was scheduled by several Facebook groups with the same name.
The largest of the groups appeared to be unavailable for several hours Wednesday and Thursday, but Facebook said it had not taken the page down, and it was online as of Thursday morning Eastern time.
"Obviously (the blocking of Facebook) is related to the objectionable material that was placed on Facebook. That is why it is blocked," said Khoram Ali Mehran of the telecommunication authority.
"We have blocked it for an indefinite amount of time. We are just following the government's instructions and the ruling of the Lahore High Court. If the government decides to unblock it, then that's what we will do," he said. [NOTE: This is one reason why the name of the country is not "Pakistan", but "The Islamic Republic of Pakistan."
The telecommunication authority has not received any complaints from Internet users about the Facebook group, he said.
Devout Muslims consider it offensive to depict Mohammed. [NOTE: Again, the journalists do not understand the issue. The issue is not the mere depiction of Mohammad which is a question of idolatry. There is no danger whatsoever of non-Moslems idolizing Muhammad. The issue here is blasphemy, that is, the non-reverential, "insulting" depiction of Muhammad. Under Islamic law, this is a crime punishable by death.]
There were riots around the world in response to a series of cartoons of Mohammed in a Danish newspaper in 2005, and at least two European cartoonists live under police protection after publication of their drawings of the Muslim prophet. [NOTE: "All around the world"? What does this say about the notion that the problem with Islam comes from only a tiny minority of extremists who misinterpret their religion???]
Mimi Sulpovar, who started one of the Facebook groups, said she read about the idea on a blog after Comedy Central bleeped out part of an episode of "South Park" that mentioned the prophet.
"This is meant to be in protest," she said.
"This is something I have felt strongly about for a long time: Bullying by certain Muslim groups will not be tolerated in a free country," said Sulpovar, who is American.
But Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the idea behind the group was offensive. [NOTE: According to standard sharia law, it is a crime to offend Moslems.]
"Islam discourages any visual representations of the prophets of God -- Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, anybody -- because we believe it can lead to a form of idol worship," he said. [NOTE: Pure Moslem deception! See comment above about the difference between idolatry and blasphemy.]
"The majority of Muslims worldwide object to any representation of a prophet of God," he added.
The idea of "Draw Mohammed Day" originated with a cartoonist who has since distanced herself from the idea, Sulpovar and Hooper said.
"The whole campaign has been taken up by Muslim-bashers and Islamophobes," Hooper said.
But Sulpovar denied being anti-Muslim.
"This extends beyond being able to draw Mohammed," she said. "If it's offensive to you, that's fine, but I don't feel it's right to impose your belief on others through intimidation.
"This is nothing to do with hate or bigotry," she said. "Nobody is inciting violence or preaching open hatred towards individuals."
Sulpovar said she is not a Muslim but added that she had received "hundreds of e-mails from people trying to explain this to me."
One group member said she saw anger and fear on both sides of the controversy but felt that free speech could not be compromised.
"This is a hot-topic debate, but so is abortion, illegal immigrants, gay marriage and politics. If we allow even a small compromise for one group, then the free speech on topics like abortion, illegal immigrants and politics can also be censored based on accusations that they cause violence or hate," Autumn Meadows said on CNN's iReport.
"Hate speech is wanting a group eradicated, physically harmed or dead. I don't think drawing Mohammed falls under that category," she said.
"Islam is not above criticism or cartoons. I believe in equality, and censoring Mohammed while we can draw every other figure in the world does not equal equality," she concluded.
Sulpovar said Pakistan's decision to block Facebook was "ridiculous."
Facebook is investigating the block, said Debbie Frost, the company's director of global communications.
Sulpovar's group had attracted more than 9,000 fans as of Thursday morning. The page which disappeared briefly had more than 80,000 fans.
Groups opposing the idea had about 68,000 fans as of Wednesday.
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It would be nice to know the views on Draw Mohammad Day of the "intellectuals" who keep preaching about poor MF hussain's rights.
i think facebook has got the group down i cant acccesss it
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