Saturday, May 06, 2006

[Fwd: NGOs spreading disaffection]

may 6th

this is yet another purely political ploy by white christist
fundamentalists and their temporary pals, the marxists.

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*US-funded NGOs spreading disaffection
*By Sandhya Jain

The American Academy for Religion (AAR) has sought data on the number of
major Hindu temples in India that are patronized by caste Hindus and
have ex-untouchable priests. This is doubly mischievous because if AAR
means OBCs when it talks of ‘caste Hindus’ as opposed to upper caste
Hindus.

Under the guise of human rights and freedom of religion, America has for
some time been promoting certain activists from weaker sections, who
regularly report to the US Commission on International Religious Freedom
(USCIRF) and the US State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights
and Labour, about India’s internal affairs. Now, American academics are
synergizing their work with the political concerns of their government,
seeking to aggravate and exploit differences in Hindu society.

The American Academy for Religion (AAR) has sought data of a number of
major Hindu temples in India that are patronized by caste Hindus and
have ex-untouchable priests. This is doubly mischievous because if AAR
means OBCs when it talks of ‘caste Hindus’ as opposed to upper caste
Hindus, then it would know very well that it is the OBCs who oppose the
entry of SCs/STs in temples. This kind of study by an outside agency is
dangerously divisive, and a combative Hindu intellectual has countered
that Indian intellectuals should in turn ask how many American churches
attended by White people have Black priests.

In any case, since the Hindu tradition is not centralized in the manner
that denominational churches are, it is unlikely that any such
statistics would be available in Hindu society, and the concerned
academics would certainly know this. They would also be aware that there
are several gurus and paramparas in India today that are training
SCs/STs as priests, should they desire to be priests. What is
interesting to note, however, is that SC/ST desire to have temples with
Brahmin priests, because they feel confident that they know the proper
way to conduct pujas!

Another question is how many formerly lower caste Hindu leaders have a
significant following among the other castes. Politically, Smt Mayawati
is way ahead of all leaders in Uttar Pradesh, and in Bihar, Shri Ram
Vilas Paswan has a certain following. In the spiritual tradition, one of
the most important leaders is Ma Amritanandamayi, a woman from the
fisherman caste, whose most loyal devotees belong to the upper castes.
Thus, the tradition of overlooking the caste of a realized saint is very
much alive in India. But I can’t think of a single significant Black
politician in the United States who would be cultivated by White people;
not even the late Martin Luther King, or a Hispanic or Native American
spiritual leader with a White Anglo Saxon following.

Becoming more overtly political, the American scholars want to know how
many SCs/STs figure on the VHP’s governing board. Here I think the more
pertinent question would be how many such persons figure in the Congress
Working Committee, especially as that party flourished for decades on
SCs/STs support, and is today headed by a White European Catholic, whose
Government is committed to such token affirmative action. Even more
pertinently, since the Church has long evangelized most of the African
continent, how many Black cardinals are there in the Vatican, and how
many bishops in the Baptist, Adventist, Methodist and other churches?

The American scholars wonder why former weaker sections form separate
sects of their own rather than with other castes; and whether they
prefer to call themselves Dalits or Harijans in order to gain the
respect of caste Hindus. It is obvious that the questions are more
political than academic, and such studies are intended to promote the
agendas of successive American administrations in interfering in the
internal affairs of other countries.

Hindu society does not have sects; by definition, sects are splinter
groups within monotheistic religions. I do not know if American Blacks
are a separate sect or not, but it is a fact that covert discrimination
even today compels them to have separate churches, and this apparently
applies to other ethnic minorities in that country. Moreover, those
minorities do not get respect by calling themselves Christian, but they
get a political value by calling themselves Black, Hispanic, Korean,
Chinese and seeking safety in numbers. Hindu society is a concentric
circle of jatis, which are cohesive social groups claiming descent from
a common ancestor, or some other common affinity. Thus, SCs/STs that
adopted the Sikh faith constituted themselves into the Ramgarhia
community, to distinguish themselves from their former Hindu brethren.
Proliferation and distinction go hand in hand in India, and do not lead
to disintegration or division.

In this context, it is worth mentioning that just as the dominant White
Christians have failed to assimilate other groups on an equal basis in
their own societies, despite converting them to their faith, so also in
India the church has failed to uplift the weaker sections despite luring
them away from Hindu society on the pretext of granting them social
equality and economic mobility. The church has inflicted grievous
injuries upon its constituents from weaker sections, forcing them to
build separate churches or to sit in segregated areas of the church,
take their dead to separate cemeteries, take holy water and communion
separately.

Christian activists of weaker sections estimate that church institutions
and Christian NGOs together receive approximately Rs. 2,500 crore of
foreign aid annually, but there is no intra-community transparency
regarding the utilization of these funds. Christian bodies earn huge
incomes from elite schools, colleges and hospitals managed by them, as
also from massive commercial properties they own in major cities. Yet
weaker sections which comprise the bulk of the community get no share of
its enormous wealth.

It is a travesty of justice that the church is now shifting the burden
of its responsibility to the Indian Government and demanding reservation
benefits for the weaker section Christians. The latter were misled away
from the Hindu fold and then betrayed by denying them a just share in
the church’s colossal resources.

According to Census 2001, there are 24.20 million Christians in India,
more than half of whom belong to the weaker section of South India. Yet
power in the Indian church is jealously guarded by priests belonging to
upper castes. The 200-member Catholic Bishops Conference of India will
never disclose the number of bishops or cardinals from weaker sections,
possibly because there are none. The UPA government has done the rich
Christian educational institutions a favour by exempting minority
institutions from the burden of reservation quotas that have been (and
are being) extended elsewhere, so they are literally without
accountability to their poorer brethren.

7 comments:

iamfordemocracy said...

Oh yes. Oh yes. Good article, good analysis, good insight, good x, good y. No suggestion for action. And this is from the mouthpiece a party that was in power not so long ago. It feels nice to know that they are so helpless.

EkSh00nyaSh00nya said...

>>I wonder if the Church would really elect a Black Pope....

Sure, when hell starts freezing over or pigs start flying, the world is gonna see a Black man elected as Pope....:-)))

>>The Indian Government actually took responsibility for the "weaker" sections?...

Unlike the Missionaries who(the "Messengers" of the Massaiah) took onto themselves to care for the sick, poor, 'uncivilized' barbarians all over the world... LMAO...

Boy, oh Boy, Sunny Boy ... let me remind u what Zomo Kenyatta, the first president of independent Kenya and one of the tallest leaders of Africa before Mandela appeared on the scene, said of these Missionaries...

"When the Europeans (missionaries) came to Africa, we (natives) had the land and they had the bible... they said that this was the book of god... and asked us to meditate ...when we opened our eyes..they had the land and we had the bible"

So much so for the compassion of the Xtain missionaries...

Teresa (she was no Mother just a conniving old lady) who ran a conversion mission under the garb of serving the poor.. she had no qualms in accepting donations from the dictators, tyrants all over the world... (ref:Hell's Angel documentary by Britain's Channel IV and a book by Christopher Hitchens)...

Sunny boy I can go on and on reciting the woes that ur brethren have inflicted on the unsuspecting people around the globe (watch Rabbit Proof Fence -- a documentary as to how the missionaries screwed up the lives -- cultural, emotional, physical -- of the native Aboriginals of Australia.. to such an extent that a whole generation came to be known as 'The Lost Generation') or how Catholic missionaries tortured and tormented the natives of S America...

So, before you grand-stand and start pontificating.. look in your own backyard and get-off this moral high-horse!

daisies said...

re:
"a combative Hindu intellectual has countered
that Indian intellectuals should in turn ask how many American churches
attended by White people have Black priests."

--- Combative intellectual, that
is surely a good combative answer.

But for ourselves, we need to
understand some more things.

Priest is not a commercial
career like IT, bio-tech. So
studies like the above are
meaningless, and in fact,
debasing,demeaning, ridiculous.

Hindu priesthood really is a
commitment to the sacred and to
the art and science of worship
at the temples WITH DEVOTION.

In the days when such duties
where handed down by descent,
the commitment was already
there, by virtue of duty by
birth. And the
knowledge/training was passed
down from gen to gen, without
choice.

The attraction to priesthood
has steadily diminished as it
isnt really paying. Though with
the IT boom, a lot of city
priests are doing OK, as they
get to charge IT rates (priest
himself used this term).

Anyway, in general, it is not really remunerative, so the attraction is diminishing. One of the gurus I know has a Ved Vigynan Pathashala to keep up the dying tradition, and the school is open to anyone who desires to take it up. Or wishes to send his/her child. Caste is not a criterion.
I've seen and heard these little
pujaris chant. They are splendid.

The other thing is, the American study is so stupid. Even if someone at 20+ made a decision to change his career and become a Hindu priest, the amount of training he would have to go through, in sanskrit, in rituals,
in rigour, and in the compnay of
other priests, etc, it would take
him a few years, unless he is gifted.

Now why on earth would someone
make such a choice unless he has
some special passion for
worshipping the sacred in a temple,
and willing to give up whatever
other career he has, which will
fetch him money ? such situations
are extremely rare.

This brings to mind Adi Sankara himself. He had to plead with his
mother to let him become a sanyasi.
(which of course is more than just
priest). he had to create that
crocodile situation to obtain her
consent, it was so non-negotiable
a quest, for him.

how many young men are threatening
to be swallowed by crocodiles if
denied their true passion to be a
hindu priest ? or at least, sulk
for a whole year if denied their heart's passion ? or a few months ?

it is very very rare. and for such cases of genuine interest, the
doors of many of our wise gurus
are WIDE OPEN. they are willing to
give them the knowledge and
training.

Priests are not created by
pushing people into the "career".
For generations, the commitment
was a duty, because of birth.
Today, anyone with interest can
become a priest.

But how many takers....?

regards.


p.s. sorry for the bad typing, typos
and repetitions. the light is very very bad. i have not been able to
re-read and edit this.


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EkSh00nyaSh00nya said...

>>But you are still treating the SC/STs just like the missionaries treated the natives. What excuse do you have?....

I know ur quite oblivious to the changes that have engulfed the world since WWII and from your rants (against Hinduism) and raves (for the messengers of peace) one can sure make up that Sunny Boy, despite his/her name, still seems to be living in some kinda time warp, let me remind you that the kind of affirmative action practiced by the Govt. of India, regarding the upliftment of backward castes, is considered one of the most stringent of its kind, nowhere in the world will you see where one gets a govt. job hanaded on the platter , regardless of his skills or qualifications....

As for excuse you refer to, SB, when a Dalit like K R Narayanan gets elected as the President of India, there is no need to hide behind the smokescreen or chicanery the likes of which are practiced by ur brethren....

So, li'l boy, u can whine to ur hearts content and act like the local represntatives of ur Masters in Vatican, nobody gives a damn to your holier-than-thou attitude.

kautilya said...

holy cow !!! :-) where do these RED knickers get all the energy and time to keep trolling? May be because most pinkos are anyways unemployed :-)
Atleast it seems to me that this guy is on vatican's payroll, so technically not "unemployed". Must say he is doing a good job for what he is paid for. That is; ass-liking the vatican. :-)
Way to go sunnyboy.

daisies said...

re:
"Well if the changes to Hinduism are so great why is it that the SC/ST are converting to Buddhism now?"

--- part of it may have something
to do with identity.

sc/st's are "avarnas". they do
not belong to one of the 4
varnas.

in hindu society a lot of
people can claim to belong to
some caste or varna.

sc/st is not a great tag to
have. dalit isnt an empowering
tag either. it's just a label.
it means "fallen" or "under". what other name is
there...? let's see...gandhi gave
them the name "harijan" (people of
god). that is something they might
find patronising.

how does one escape all these
tags ? convert to buddhism.

and by the way, "hinduism" doesnt get to change. it is what
it always was - freedom to worship
god in whatever form, allowing
others to worship in any way,
and to see the divine in
everything.

what we are really talking of
here is changing social order.

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daisies said...

sorry virat0,

all sense of identity does not
come from individual self-expression. some of it comes from
a sense of belonging to some group
that is recognised.

some very strong and secure
individuals may feel completely
unaffected by what group they
belong to or dont belong to. but
in general, human beings find a
sense of security, identity and
pride in being part of some group
that distinguishes them.

this is why we have teams in
school. Red House. Blue House.
Green House. Yellow House. And
how much pride we have taken for
which House we were in at school..
It is a natural feeling.

anyway, what i am talking of is
historical fact - sc/st's do not
fall under the varnas, they are
outside the varna system, in the
old hindu society.


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