Monday, May 22, 2006

swamped

may 22nd
 
hi folks, i am running around, have too much to do and wont be getting access to the internet for a few days. please expect normal activity to resume on june 1. 
 
till then, take care.
 
rajeev 

22 comments:

iamfordemocracy said...

A powerful idea is mightier than the sword. Look at how Gujarat is handling the aggressive Amir Khan. His new picture won't be screened in multiplexes in Gujarat. His producer is on knees...

Let us note that every person has a voice .. he should know how to make it heard. He can choose to be shrill and maniac, like Arundhati Roy and Medha Patkar, or he can use a purposeful and firm voice.

I hope those who are against reservations think of their power. Choose a channel! That is all you need to do, and talk in one voice.
More about this later.

drisyadrisya said...

Timely article by Francois

I guess the community is so fractured and weak that one doesn;t even hear much voices of protest.. most of the some-what powrful among the brahmins aare anyway in the US . Some are in politics and they would keep their lips sealed for fear of losing political career

EkSh00nyaSh00nya said...

Have a look @ the image of the Italian Barmaid (IB) and her lap-dogs --the dumb Sardar and the senile old-fart Arjun Singh -- cut-outs of whom are propped up @ AIIMS campus in Delhi, on Rediff:

http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/may/24look1.htm

The IB keeping her 'pets' on the leash ---the title seems to be misleading with whats being witnessed all-around in India --one wonder's how or Is it that these morons and inbeciles are just doing their mistress bidding...

IF any of you guys can point out as to how to post that image here, the way sometimes you embed hyper-links in your posts (no knowledge as to how you do it), that'd be fine, 'coz I think with the way Rediff has gradually become a Congi mouthpiece, that image won't be there for long...

We Indians sure know how to shoot ourselves in the foot, and at this time when the world is watching in awe and should say jealousy, as to how India has carved out a place for itself in knowledge sphere, thanx to the divisionary tactics of these nincompoop politicians, we sure will be back to where we started from and the world will again steal a march over us... a sense of deja-vu all over again!

Wonder, how long its gonna be before the avg. Indian voter wakes up and shows these gutter-level creatures that all these old policies of divide-and-rule no longer work.... but hey whom am I talking to... these morons (the voters for a change in this case) who returned the commies and the pinkos back to power in Waste Bengal and Kerala --- they sure prove that old adage true:

You get what you deserve!

kautilya said...

Whatever may be the case guys, Congress has now officially transformed into a full-fledged Communal and Caste based party. Earlier, atleast it made a pretense of being secular and nationalist organisation. Under Sonia the Congress has achieved a new low. What has happened in last two years, the consequences of this will be felt for many years to come. No government in next 50 years will be able to clean up the mess. Similar to what happened when NDA came after 50 years of Congress rule. NDA just did not have the majic wand to cleanse it.

If elections are held in next two years this is my prediction

Congress alone : 240 seats.
Communists : 80 seats
Mulayam/Lalu et al : 150 seats
BJP : 20 seats.
Shiv Sena : 0

Rahul Gandhi = PM.

Bottom line. It's a lost cause.

iamfordemocracy said...

Kapidhwaja, the portfolio you have mentioned does not look bad at all. For one thing, they are all young. Secondly, Rahul Gandhi might not be as much of a proselytisation fan and might not have as much commitment to pope as the present congress cabinet has.

Of course, Hindus will have to pull up their socks to put enough pressure on the ministers. Personally, I think pilot-Scindia-Deora-Rahul combination is 100 times better than Bajpayee-Advani with their comuunist advisers and seeking-pat-from-seculars attitude.

Surya said...

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http://alalalai.blogspot.com/
Surya

daisies said...

The website says:
"The caste system, which has existed for more than 3,000 years, was developed by the Brahmins (priests) in order to maintain their superiority."

--- to maintain their superiority ? this website is propagating
rubbish about brahmins and origin of caste system in India.

I ask them, how many dalits, 3000 years back OR now, wanted
to or want to become vedic priests - do serious japa for
hours together, sitting still in one place, studying/chanting
vedas, etc? in those days it was all sruti-smriti. heard +
remembered. no websites, no books, cassettes, dvd, ipod's.

for a brahmin, study was more important than food. they ate
if they got any food when they asked. in the upanayanam
ceremony a young brahmin learns to ask:
"bhavathi bhikshandehi"

- mother, please give me alms.

all the preservation of vedic knowledge required people of
sharp intellect, memory, brain-power and dedication. this was
what being a brahmin was all about, contrary to all this
talk of trying to "maintain superiority" since 3000 years.

and also, how many dalits were/are OK with not eating any meat ?
brahmins were not allowed to, nor did they want to.

if the vedas survived for so many centuries, it is because of the
inflexibility of the brahmin priest system. Today we have
ISO 9001, Six-sigma, whatever, etc. In those days, the same thing
was achieved through a rigid brahmanical system. They were a small
community and something very valuable was preserved and kept up by
them.

Today anyone buy it off the shelf.

at the end of it all, today, 21st century, the brahmin community is
not affluent. and nor are they complaining. it seems to me that
many brahmins do value the sacred much, much more than they value
money - true to their dharma.

they have served a very important purpose for mankind. very few will
understand this. but for them, most of india would have now been
Xianised or Mhmedanised (one of them would have conquered the rest).


p.s. i will not be answering any comments criticising or challenging
my post, or any trolls, as i do not want to debate on this.
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iamfordemocracy said...

Daisies, presently, it is counterproductive to talk about anything caste-centric. The prevailing attitude was well expressed by one Tamil politician long back when he said if he saw a snake and a brahmin, he would kill the brahmin first. Interestingly, we know much more about the utility of snakes these days, because various people have studied snakes in the meantime. Studying brahmins is a crime, because Majority believes it is so. The hatred about certain upper-castes has been systematically fanned, just like they fan Hindu-hatred in Pakistan by teaching children that Hindus were bad.

For my part, I would like a law to be enacted that says abusing anyone based on any caste reference basis is a cognisable offence!! It is simple, nobody can dispute it is the right thing. BJP could have brought this ordinance. They failed to think about stopping this divisive hatred. The root cause of today's trouble is not congress, it is BJP.

iamfordemocracy said...

Kapidhwaja, you do not own the blogosphere. Instead of typing abuses, try answering some of the questions that point towards BJP's inaction. If you have any living cell left in your brain, for once, think!

daisies said...

Dear, dear Parthasarathy,

You are back again to poke at me,
arent you ? As I expected. You have
score to settle with me.

Mister, Nowhere in my post did I ask anyone not to express their
thoughts.

I simply stated that I will not
be responding to any opinions
challenging my opinion, as I do
not want to debate. To do justice
to the subject will involve a
lengthy debate.

I did not ask anyone not to write
what they want!! I am not the
blog censorer. Whereas you are. You
even feel Daisies OUGHT to think
just like Parthasarathy!!

Alas, you prove again and again
what a brainwashed bigot you are.
The latest program running in your
head is - "Attack daisies for
whatever she writes, since P does
agree with any of her views".

I dont have time to waste on
bigots like you, and in future,
if you write back like this, I
will just copy paste this response,
which will be my stock response to
dear Parthasarathy.

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iamfordemocracy said...

Mr. Parthasarathy's comments are in good spirit and good taste. Let us hope everyone here (and on other similar blogs) posts with the intention of contributing to the debate than for any personal or ego purpose. We owe that to our Nation, to Hinuism, and to the freedom and independence of an indivitual.

daisies said...

Iamfordemocracy,

Logically, your support for
Parthasarathy's "good taste",
effectively puts Daisies comments
in bad taste, doesnt it ? He has
explicitly stated that I ought to
be responding to all comments
challenging my post, and you
support him in that, indirectly.

I guess you are in the same boat,
who thinks that every question
YOU raise here OUGHT to be
answered by someone. In your
case, your BJP questions. If no
one answers, you continue to bash
BJP, even on a totally unrelated
matter.

Even my post became a BJP bashing
point for you. I guess Rajeev was
right after all, in naming
you "ItsBjpsfault".

Heck, I'll leave him to come back
and deal with you. Obelix can deal
with you.

_

iamfordemocracy said...

No daisies, you got me wrong. I sense you have a genuine concern for Hinduism and all the good things it incorporates. We love you for that!

Just a simple request to you, do post whenever you feel you are contributing (even if it means bashing me or someone else), but if it is just a personal issue, sonsider twice whether it is worth posting it. At least, that is what I try to do..(not that I always succeed).

daisies said...

Sorry, Iamfordemocracy your
response does not gel with me.

Personal issue ? My post was on
behalf of a whole community that
has been maligned in the wesbite
san posted.

So it was CLEARLY NOT a personal
issue. You had no business to post a BJP distraction right there. Especially when YOU asked San NOT
to post Off-Topic comments. What makes you think your comments are
all On-Topic ?

Pls. dont post yr. BJP distractions
when someone else makes meaningful
comment that deserves attention.

Do not use this blog as YOUR OWN
PERSONAL BJP bashing space. Create
another blog (you already have one)
and let people know you have a blog
totally dedicated to that. If they
are interested, they will come
there. If not, they will not come.

No need to try to usurp THIS
blog and the readers' time and
attention here for your one-track
BJP bashing needs.

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daisies said...

P:
"Daisies,
Once again, you have asked IamFor... to keep his BJP bashing to himself but you yourselves find it a non-issue that you continue to defend Brahmins and Brahmin community to the point thatt you sound boring."

--- I never once complained on this
blog about IamforD's BJP
bashing in the past. I always
respected his right to say
whatever he wanted.

But this time, above, he
pontificated to me.

So I reminded him of these:

1. His comments being off-topic
when he has asked San not to be
off-topic - DOUBLE STANDARDS.

2. His using this blog for BJP
bashing, and yet complaining
about my posts being "personal".
--- DOUBLE STANDARDS.

The difference between my posts on
brahmins is that I responded to
Brahmin bashing, to a post by
another blogger, who had the same
views - that upper castes were
being accused of consipracies.

Whereas IamforD INITIATES BJP
bashing whenever he can.

Too bad you find my posts boring.
What is boring for you may not be
broing for someone else.

AND YOU ARE THE GREATEST HYPOCRITE.
You never bashed San for posting
his post (which started this thread), but are busy bashing
Daisies. (not that I am asking
anyone to bash San, I am simply
showing you your hypocrisy).

Daisies doesnt care if dear P
found her posts boring. Cant you
just skip my posts and look for
something else to read ?

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daisies said...

I didnt even read P's comments
since I felt he wasnt worth my
attention.

Now that Virat0 has copied some
lines, I did read, from virat0. I
always read what Virat writes.

Dear P -

The brahmins I am talking of are
the ones who stayed Vedic. Not the
teeny minority who made their own
choices and are now BAD-mouthing
the Brahmin community, and WORSE
not even allowing others to say
anything good about the vedic
brahmins.

P thinks just because he and others
made their own present choices,
MY ancestors, and other such
people, many of whom have been
extremely sincere, deserve to be
maligned on dalit websites. And
Daisies should shut up, because P
does not fit her description of
brahmins.

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daisies said...

Dear Dear P says:

"Brahmins reciting Vedic verses into their children's ears (lest a shudra nearby overheard it)."

I would like to see photographs of
this happening, and also proof that
this indeed was the intent of
those "wicked whispering Brahmins".

Dear P has grown up on a steady
diet of Max Mueller's and Witzel's
fairy tales.

Today he sits in USA filing patents
to protect his IP, so that no one
will steal his prosperity. He
doesnt want even to share his
economic properity and IP freely
with shudras.

On the other hand, the poor
vedic brahmins only protetcted the
Vedas from distortion, by their
very strict rules, Thank God for
that.

I also know that NO GURU will give
knowledge randomly without
systematic training. Why ? Because
1) distortion possibility.
2) A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A
DANGEROUS THING !!! (half
knowledge can be worse than
no knowledge!!!)

Pranayama done improperly can give
spinal problems, headaches, what
not. This is just ONE example.

I wont waste any more time on P.
He doesnt deserve my time.

And anyway all he can understand
is modern programming languages
and chip design.

And is an EXPERT at selectively
abusing just one blogger, out of
this entire team of bloggers. Only
ONE blogger became his target of
abuse.

Shows me his deep INsincerity to
values.

And that too, he has never
contributed here, he only reads
posts, and he feels entitled to
complain about me and to preach
to me.

Even high-tech USA has
not taught him the importance of
value-added contributions. He is
just a whiner and complainer, with
only ONE target on the blog.

Hope he will learn to be a
positive contributor in future.

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daisies said...

Dear Dear P,

In my eyes, you are still a very
uncultured person, just beginning
to learn the ABC's of culture,
principles and values. In USA,
courtesy is highly valued. You
did not even have that to begin
with, when you wrote here from
there.

In India we say - "Vidya without
Vinayam is Vyartham" (Education
without humility is waste).

I am glad to see change in your
attitude and behaviour. But, one swallow does not make a summer.

So I decline to answer your
questions, because you are not yet
MERITORIOUS and DESERVING.

You have not earned my respect yet.

I wish you great growth. Maybe
someday, some other blogger will
answer your questions if he/she
finds in you a deserving candidate.

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daisies said...

well virat,

If you say "something called a brahmin", then anyone can say
"something called a hindu".

they care 2 hoots about the
"greatness of hindus" and the
"grand place of hindus in the
universe", just like virat cares
2 hoots about the "thing" called
brahmin.

for the western historians,
hindu is just some stupid
insignificant "thing".

whereas 'aryan' has a grand place
in the universe.

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daisies said...

re:
"I think 'thing' is what happened in secular analysis, they lost and settled for analyzing the objects . I pity such analysis and hope for better standards of govt paid analyssts. Considering such analysis is by the blind fellows, how many hoots would you or for that matter any sane person could care for ?"

- Virat,
Your posts are mostly very hard
to understand, almost cryptic,
although I always read them and
try to decipher, because your
viewpoint seems very unique,
usually. Not that I always agree
with you, but it is unique.

I confess I could not understand
a thing in the above lines.
I tried my best.

Let me clarify my statement again
- if any entity within hinduism
is a "thing" for you, then Xists
M-ists and Witzels will all be
justified in calling hindus a
"thing".

This is a logical conclusion, and
I am surprised you are defending
yourself so much against a very
simple logical conclusion.

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daisies said...

madrasi passer-by eavesdropper, :)

this isnt two ladies across a
compound wall in madras. :)

these are two highly intellectual
pundits with the greatest concern
for the nation's well-being.

:-)

daisies said...

Dear Dear Dear Dear P,

You came here and abused me
starting from the first minute you
stepped into this blog. You kept
that up afterwards when you
revisited.

I have merely stated that in my
eyes, you are not yet meritorious
and deserving, because one
swallow does not make a summer.
SIMPLY BECAUSE you wrote me ONE
nice email after abusing me 20
times. That is why I said "One
swallow does not make a summer".
I was afraid you would have a
relapse.

You have shown me exactly that -
that you are NIT capable of more
than one nice email to someone
whom you sent 50 abusive posts,
starting from your entry here.

You just proved me right - one swallow does not make a summer.

Nice record. And you still seem
entitled to abuse me, after all
this.

Dont come back here and abuse me
again.

This blog doesnt need your abuses.

You are a pollutant here.

Good luck. I wish you great growth
again.

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