i am a nuclear sceptic, but i am even more sceptical about nydrocarbons. one is quick death, the other lingering death :-) |
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entertaining debate; come a long way from global warming scepticism, haven't we? ok, we'll give it a rest for now. |
i would say nuclear far dirtier than solar. half-life of waste in 1,000s of years. but we must get off hc, come what mayt |
total cost of ownership of nuclear far exceeds solar, must include radioactive waste cleanup, risk of chernobyls, terrorism |
thin films less energy-hungry for production. put the cells on desert/arid/marginal land, or heck, out at sea! |
most of all, uranium finite. total energy content in all uranium 2,000 terawatthrs. solar 30,000 tw PER YEAR! |
solar produces no co2 either. and uranium mining and processing costs lots of co2 producing energy too, and strip mining. |
and nuclear in india, with terrorists running around freely? how tempting to them! |
nuclear cleaner than solar (much, much, you said). how so? |
because nuclear cleanup costs will be 50x the capital costs, and will leave us dependent on oz, canada, russia, us for uranium |
politician-media nexus. you're right: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? media hides much, promotes other news based on payment |
i agree oil not used for elec in india, it's for transport, industry, agri. i am not saying go off oil cold-turkey either |
talking of new capital costs, india is planning to sink $45 billion into nuclear. that, surely, can be diverted to solar. |
i find those figures solar = 6x wind rather high |
but sunk cost doesn't mean you don't upgrade. sunk twisted wire costs for telecom didn't prevent migration to cellular |
full costs not accounted. take any country. US: iraq war costs? india: cost of patrolling gulf of aden? not in oil budget |
i doubt it is accounted for. the infra capital cost attributed to development. retail cost only reflects operational expenses. |
solar costs will fall with volume and tech progress in efficiency. today with subsidies, japan/germany solar is grid-neutral |
fully loaded cost of infra for oil/gas/coal: pipelines, ports, LNG terminals, rail lines, very high. hidden in other budgets |
not talking of india alone or OPEC alone. world must get off. oil is nasty, leads to: 1. co2 2. plastics 3. jihad |
politician-media complex is instrument and US/vatican/china/saudi arabia are the financiers of manufactured consent. chomsky was right |
media is being used cynically to manufacture consent. led to slaughter pied-piper like. people actually believe what media says |
i am not a fan of biofuels. but solar, yes. capital cost high, but running cost low. fully loaded cost of oil/coal/gas high |
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