june 10th
i am impressed by ck prahalad's ideas. his ideas on strategic intent have been compelling. and lately his concept of 'the bottom of the pyramid' makes intuitive sense especially in india where there is a large amount of purchasing power even with less-affluent individuals, if only it is tapped carefully.
this article was forwarded to me by somebody, and i am forwarding it on to you.
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
The Art of Outsourcing
By C.K. PRAHALAD
June 8, 2005; Page A14
In the very partisan political climate in Washington, what is the one issue
that is likely to bring Democrats and Republicans together? The fact that Sens.
Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.) and Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) will co-sponsor a
China Currency Act is quite extraordinary. Their concerns and their solutions
to the growth of imports from China -- be it textiles or consumer electronics
-- are leading the U.S. to a more protectionist posture.
Export of service jobs to India is also a cause for politicians' concern, and
the "Exporting of America" theme is never short of congressional attention. The
assumption behind this fearful perspective is simple: Greedy managers in global
firms are exporting jobs to cheaper locations without regard to the harm this
causes to displaced U.S. workers.
I suggest that we look at this phenomenon with a different set of lenses,
highlighting the emerging pattern of globalization and the new demands it
imposes on global firms. If American firms are to maintain their competitive
edge now and in the future, they need to get in front of these changes and
direct them, not become isolationists.
The outsourcing of lucrative information technology and high-end manufacturing
work is not new, at least between U.S. companies. EDS, IBM, CSC and Accenture
built their businesses on outsourcing. Kodak outsourced all IT work to IBM in
1989. Xerox outsourced it to EDS in 1994. The government has been outsourcing
work to CSC from the early 1980s. The motivation for outsourcers was always the
same -- reducing capital expenditures and operating costs, accessing
competence, and focusing on their core activities. Off-shoring of work to an
overseas manufacturing facility is also not new. For over 30 years, U.S.
multinationals have "off-shored" their manufacturing and R&D facilities in
semiconductors, computing, chemicals and pharmaceuticals to the U.K., Germany,
France, Ireland and, more recently, to China and India. Flextronics and
Solectron built their business on outsourcing of high-volume electronics
manufacturing by U.S. firms. So outsourcing to specialized vendors and
off-shoring (internally or to an outside vendor) is accepted practice. Why
then, is this debate happening now?
* * *
The current outsourcing of knowledge work is a new variant of the long history
of outsourcing. Traditionally, EDS took over the entire IT work of a firm
including most of the employees. In the current variation of outsourcing,
driven by digitization and inexpensive telecommunications and ubiquitous
connectivity, parts of work can be parceled out for remote delivery to a
vendor. Key management processes can be fragmented. For example,
sales-transaction processing and call centers can be separated from the entire
sales and customer service activity and outsourced. Investment bankers can
isolate routine analysis of a firm's performance from their overall investment
recommendation. So, too, can patent search from patent application, making of
slides from a customer presentation, developing CAD drawings from purchasing
decisions, or market research from product development.
It is this ability to fragment complex processes into their components -- as
well as the search for the best and lowest-cost talent to perform it -- that is
changing the nature of competitiveness. Also new is the fact that the work can
be done almost in "real time" remotely. While work is done 10,000 miles away,
Office Tiger, an investments analysis firm in Chennai, India, claims that it
can deliver a routine performance analysis of a firm in less than three hours.
It is the granularity of the effort that can be outsourced that allows
customers to be more willing to experiment. Today, outsourcing is not a
complex, board-level decision, unlike the outsourcing of all IT work during the
'80s and early '90s.
The current phase of outsourcing will lead to multiple streams of competitive
advantage for U.S. companies. Cost is one of them, and will remain at the core
of the phenomenon. Quality is another. India has more than 40 software houses
with a quality ranking of CMM 4 or 5. There are other benefits to outsourcing,
too. Because remote development and delivery demands clear documentation, the
process capabilities of both the customer and the vendor improve. Most often,
for outsourcing to work, the U.S. customers have to get their legacy processes
cleaned up. Many firms have found that outsourcing helps in better
documentation of internal processes. Speed of reaction is yet another source of
advantage. As vendors and customers work in time zones with a nine- to 12-hour
difference, rapid response is possible. Finally, outsourcing allows firms to
access a higher quality of skilled people for developing analytics. In just two
years (2002-2003), U.S. firms conducting R&D in India have filed for over 900
patents.
* * *
The real debate ought to center around the best way for U.S. firms to import
competitiveness -- not "export jobs." Firms compete across the globe --
Motorola against Nokia and Samsung, GE against Siemens, GM against Toyota, and
Intel against AMD and TI. Global competition is primarily about inter-firm, not
inter-country, rivalry.
Global firms are not just looking for the next source of competitiveness. They
are also looking for new markets to grow. The largest markets for cellphones
today are in China and India. India is adding nearly two million phones per
month. China is one of the largest markets for Caterpillar and is emerging as a
large market for cars. Yes, India can be a source of competition for
"well-paying jobs." But it is also a growing market for Dell computers,
Microsoft software, Motorola cellphones, Whirlpool appliances, and Oracle
databases. For example, while technicians work at these remote call centers and
other "outsourced" operations, the hardware and software tools they use are
made by U.S. firms. Globalization is creating a new form of interdependence. To
focus on "independence" and "self-sufficiency" in this era is foolhardy.
The crux of the debate needs to be reframed. If global firms have to compete
effectively for global markets as well as retain their position in established
markets, they must have the ability to improve their cost, quality,
time-to-market and capacity to innovate. This requires a continual search for
talent and a willingness to change the internal processes of managing to keep
ahead of competition. The current wave of outsourcing is motivated by this
desire to innovate ahead of competition.
The longer-term prognosis for the developed world demands that global firms
learn to source talent from developing countries such as China and India. Given
the demographics, it is estimated that the U.S. will be unable to fill more
than a million jobs by 2010. Aging populations and worker shortage are likely
to be major problems in Germany, France, the U.K. and Japan. Either one allows
for more immigration to fill jobs or rapidly learns to outsource work and have
it done remotely in India, China, Eastern Europe, Russia or the Philippines.
The firms that learn to innovate quickly by managing differently -- with
granular partitioning of workflow and efficient coordination of the fragmented
parts -- will retain competitive advantage.
There was a time in the 1980s when Americans fretted about Japanese competitors
and how they would take over all the key industries in the U.S. As we look
back, the firms and industries which were willing to adapt and innovate have
done very well: IBM, Intel, H-P, GE, Dell and Motorola have not disappeared.
They are still leaders in their fields. All of them access global talent to
retain their competitiveness. Consequently, the key question for U.S. firms
should be: How are we going to leverage the talent and markets in China and
India to enhance our competitive advantage world-wide?
The current outsourcing phenomenon is the start of a new pattern of innovation
in the way we manage. The ability to fragment complex management processes and
reintegrate them into the whole is a new capability. It allows us, in the short
term, to take advantage of the talent outside the U.S. In the longer term, it
allows us to cope creatively with the emerging labor shortage caused by an
aging population in developed markets. The time to learn to manage with a
global system of knowledge, products, services and component vendors is now. We
should celebrate the process that imports competitiveness and creates new jobs.
Fear is for losers -- and for Lou Dobbs.
Mr. Prahalad is the Harvey C. Fruehauf professor of Corporate Strategy at the
Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan. He is also chairman of
The Next Practice, and the author, most recently, of "The Fortune at the Bottom
of the Pyramid: Eradicating Poverty Through Profits" (Wharton, 2004).
_________________________________________________________
Saturday, June 11, 2005
Washington Post: Jim Hoagland on India vs. China
June 10th
sorry for the radio silence, folks: i was on the us east coast on a mixture of business and vacation and had too little time to post stuff.
this article by jim hoagland was forwarded to me by someone, and i am posting it as is. i am not sure about the currency basket argument, but i think the chinese currency is deliberately under-valued and there's no way in hell they'll re-value it unless forced to. the links to other asian currencies is probably a red herring intended to get other countries to help in resisting american pressure to revalue.
some of hoagland's arguments are things that i have saying -- nay, shouting from the rooftops -- for some time. but short-term focused americans are not paying attention to the long-term trends.
also, note, en passant, the statement by the national review commentator below the hoagland column that the 'adoption of christianity' by china is a good thing for america :-) now where have we heard this business of the missionaries being the storm troopers preceding colonization?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/08/AR2005060802173.html
THE WASHINGTON POST
Whose Asian Century?
By Jim Hoagland
Thursday, June 9, 2005; Page A21
China prepares to head a great manufacturing empire. But empires unravel, usually from within. The forces that will determine which nations will dominate the 21st century may yet favor India's emerging reach for global power status more than China's determined grasp for that prize.
Kamal Nath, India's energetic minister of commerce and industry, states the case with economy: "China may win the sprint, but India will win the marathon." In Nath's view, this will be the Asian Century -- but not in the ways many in the United States and Europe assume or fear.
To which you are entitled to respond in unison: Well, he would say that, wouldn't he? It's his job. And right you would be. But right he may be as well: Current straight-line projections of China's rise to power neglect developments and adjustments in other Asian countries, particularly in the region's two great democracies, India and Japan.
The "smart money" literally favors China. Foreign companies pour billions upon billions into direct investment there. But what if they are pouring 21st-century dollars or yen into a great 20th-century power? Politically, China is ruled by Leninists who must maintain the status quo. Militarily it relies on a large, underequipped land army. Economically it has adapted and mastered Henry Ford's assembly line on a continental scale. Financially it hordes its cash, regulates its markets with zeal and defensively uses fiscal policy to prevent mass upheaval.
Even the Bush administration's trade arguments with China come from the past. While the United States and India argue about problems of the future, such as intercontinental outsourcing, the U.S.-China quarrel smacks of the Bretton Woods conference of 1944. Washington wants Beijing to revalue its currency as a way of cutting the staggering trade imbalances spinning out of low-wage manufacturing.
Think Asia, not only China. Only a revaluing of the Chinese currency of 25 percent or more -- a huge, unlikely step -- would raise prices enough to deter consumers abroad, a Chinese businessman suggested in a not-for-attribution talk on Asia's "dispersed manufacturing" system delivered at the Trilateral Commission meeting here in April.
"The yarn for a shirt you think comes from China was perhaps shipped from Thailand to South Korea for processing while buttons came from the Philippines. The final product was stitched together in China and shipped from there," the businessman said. "Revaluing, at any politically acceptable level, will not seriously change the final price."
This description "underlined that we need an Asia-wide exchange rate agreement, not just one with China," economist Fred Bergstrom said later. He's right: The Middle Kingdom serves as a platform to bring together capital, cheap labor and industrial technology from throughout the region and ultimately the world. China relies on this empire, but does not totally control it.
India, on the other hand, has set out to become "a global knowledge hub, with a central place in the transnational movement of knowledge and services," Nath said in a conversation here last week. He argued that India's comparative advantage lies in its large and relatively young educated population. Seventy percent of India's 1.1 billion people are literate -- many of them are fluent in English -- and about half are under 30.
Nath's argument intrigues because it incorporates global demographic trends often ignored or glossed over because of the social and political dilemmas they create. Prime among these is the galloping aging of the population of advanced industrial societies that will not accept greater immigration flows to renew their labor forces. Where do these countries turn when they have too few workers to meet demand for goods and services -- and to support retirees?
"The answer is to move information and services, rather than people, across borders," according to Nath. Shifting low-wage or knowledge-intensive jobs through new communications or other technology to areas where there are surpluses of educated and willing workers has been controversial, he acknowledges, but if outsourcing decisions make economic sense, the savings they create will provide new jobs at home.
You're right again: He would say that, wouldn't he? But what about these remarks by an influential American, Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns? Speaking to a U.S.-European group in Brussels on May 26, Burns observed:
"The greatest change you will see in the next three or four years is a new American focus on South Asia, particularly in establishing a closer strategic partnership with India . . . If you look at all the trends -- population, economic growth, foreign policy trends -- there's no question that India is the rising power in the East. . . . I think you'll see this as a major focus of our president and our secretary of state, and it will be the area of greatest dynamic positive change in American foreign policy."
It was fashionable a few decades ago to bemoan the weakness of democracies in the bipolar conflict of the Cold War. Despite that pessimism, totalitarianism did not prevail in that long race -- just as the communists in China will not win the right to shape the Asian Century alone.
jimhoagland@washpost.com
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sorry for the radio silence, folks: i was on the us east coast on a mixture of business and vacation and had too little time to post stuff.
this article by jim hoagland was forwarded to me by someone, and i am posting it as is. i am not sure about the currency basket argument, but i think the chinese currency is deliberately under-valued and there's no way in hell they'll re-value it unless forced to. the links to other asian currencies is probably a red herring intended to get other countries to help in resisting american pressure to revalue.
some of hoagland's arguments are things that i have saying -- nay, shouting from the rooftops -- for some time. but short-term focused americans are not paying attention to the long-term trends.
also, note, en passant, the statement by the national review commentator below the hoagland column that the 'adoption of christianity' by china is a good thing for america :-) now where have we heard this business of the missionaries being the storm troopers preceding colonization?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/08/AR2005060802173.html
THE WASHINGTON POST
Whose Asian Century?
By Jim Hoagland
Thursday, June 9, 2005; Page A21
China prepares to head a great manufacturing empire. But empires unravel, usually from within. The forces that will determine which nations will dominate the 21st century may yet favor India's emerging reach for global power status more than China's determined grasp for that prize.
Kamal Nath, India's energetic minister of commerce and industry, states the case with economy: "China may win the sprint, but India will win the marathon." In Nath's view, this will be the Asian Century -- but not in the ways many in the United States and Europe assume or fear.
To which you are entitled to respond in unison: Well, he would say that, wouldn't he? It's his job. And right you would be. But right he may be as well: Current straight-line projections of China's rise to power neglect developments and adjustments in other Asian countries, particularly in the region's two great democracies, India and Japan.
The "smart money" literally favors China. Foreign companies pour billions upon billions into direct investment there. But what if they are pouring 21st-century dollars or yen into a great 20th-century power? Politically, China is ruled by Leninists who must maintain the status quo. Militarily it relies on a large, underequipped land army. Economically it has adapted and mastered Henry Ford's assembly line on a continental scale. Financially it hordes its cash, regulates its markets with zeal and defensively uses fiscal policy to prevent mass upheaval.
Even the Bush administration's trade arguments with China come from the past. While the United States and India argue about problems of the future, such as intercontinental outsourcing, the U.S.-China quarrel smacks of the Bretton Woods conference of 1944. Washington wants Beijing to revalue its currency as a way of cutting the staggering trade imbalances spinning out of low-wage manufacturing.
Think Asia, not only China. Only a revaluing of the Chinese currency of 25 percent or more -- a huge, unlikely step -- would raise prices enough to deter consumers abroad, a Chinese businessman suggested in a not-for-attribution talk on Asia's "dispersed manufacturing" system delivered at the Trilateral Commission meeting here in April.
"The yarn for a shirt you think comes from China was perhaps shipped from Thailand to South Korea for processing while buttons came from the Philippines. The final product was stitched together in China and shipped from there," the businessman said. "Revaluing, at any politically acceptable level, will not seriously change the final price."
This description "underlined that we need an Asia-wide exchange rate agreement, not just one with China," economist Fred Bergstrom said later. He's right: The Middle Kingdom serves as a platform to bring together capital, cheap labor and industrial technology from throughout the region and ultimately the world. China relies on this empire, but does not totally control it.
India, on the other hand, has set out to become "a global knowledge hub, with a central place in the transnational movement of knowledge and services," Nath said in a conversation here last week. He argued that India's comparative advantage lies in its large and relatively young educated population. Seventy percent of India's 1.1 billion people are literate -- many of them are fluent in English -- and about half are under 30.
Nath's argument intrigues because it incorporates global demographic trends often ignored or glossed over because of the social and political dilemmas they create. Prime among these is the galloping aging of the population of advanced industrial societies that will not accept greater immigration flows to renew their labor forces. Where do these countries turn when they have too few workers to meet demand for goods and services -- and to support retirees?
"The answer is to move information and services, rather than people, across borders," according to Nath. Shifting low-wage or knowledge-intensive jobs through new communications or other technology to areas where there are surpluses of educated and willing workers has been controversial, he acknowledges, but if outsourcing decisions make economic sense, the savings they create will provide new jobs at home.
You're right again: He would say that, wouldn't he? But what about these remarks by an influential American, Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns? Speaking to a U.S.-European group in Brussels on May 26, Burns observed:
"The greatest change you will see in the next three or four years is a new American focus on South Asia, particularly in establishing a closer strategic partnership with India . . . If you look at all the trends -- population, economic growth, foreign policy trends -- there's no question that India is the rising power in the East. . . . I think you'll see this as a major focus of our president and our secretary of state, and it will be the area of greatest dynamic positive change in American foreign policy."
It was fashionable a few decades ago to bemoan the weakness of democracies in the bipolar conflict of the Cold War. Despite that pessimism, totalitarianism did not prevail in that long race -- just as the communists in China will not win the right to shape the Asian Century alone.
jimhoagland@washpost.com
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http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/05_06_05_corner-archive.asp#065686
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE, JUNE 9, 2005
INDIA V CHINA [Rich Lowry ]
Hoagland is pretty late in the insight that India is likely to outperform China in the long run. He does make a great point on the currency basket for Asia.
Even before 9/11 the Bush administration was working hard to improve relations with India. It's a natural US ally as a democratic, largely English speaking democracy concerned with militant Islam and a rising, nationalistic/fascistic China. We now have a services trade deal, military cooperation and a large Boeing deal to show for these efforts. It just took us a while to seek this logical partnership because post colonial India was a de facto Soviet ally in the Cold War. Bush moved crisply after Clinton barely got the ball rolling.
It has long been noted that the return on invested capital for India is much higher than for China thanks to its emphasis on developing a knowledge economy instead of being a low cost manufacturing center (not that this is a bad thing).
The scariest short term scenario with China is that the confluence of the government's need to stoke nationalism to keep the country together, Taiwan's negligent underinvestment in defense, China successfully upgrading its Naval and Air Forces without our knowledge and the impending European arms sales might lead them to make a grab for Taiwan sparking a crisis around the time of the 2008 Olympics. In the long term, they could make geopolitical trouble for us in a de facto alliance with a passive aggressive Europe, but we have many cards to play and China itself has some internal contradictions, unfavorable demographic trends and emerging factors -- like the adoption of Christianity -- that probably work in our favor.
There are really no bad scenarios with India. They can destroy anybody that may mess with them and are almost too diverse to degenerate into a civil war or hyper nationalistic state.
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/05_06_05_corner-archive.asp#065686
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE, JUNE 9, 2005
INDIA V CHINA [Rich Lowry ]
Hoagland is pretty late in the insight that India is likely to outperform China in the long run. He does make a great point on the currency basket for Asia.
Even before 9/11 the Bush administration was working hard to improve relations with India. It's a natural US ally as a democratic, largely English speaking democracy concerned with militant Islam and a rising, nationalistic/fascistic China. We now have a services trade deal, military cooperation and a large Boeing deal to show for these efforts. It just took us a while to seek this logical partnership because post colonial India was a de facto Soviet ally in the Cold War. Bush moved crisply after Clinton barely got the ball rolling.
It has long been noted that the return on invested capital for India is much higher than for China thanks to its emphasis on developing a knowledge economy instead of being a low cost manufacturing center (not that this is a bad thing).
The scariest short term scenario with China is that the confluence of the government's need to stoke nationalism to keep the country together, Taiwan's negligent underinvestment in defense, China successfully upgrading its Naval and Air Forces without our knowledge and the impending European arms sales might lead them to make a grab for Taiwan sparking a crisis around the time of the 2008 Olympics. In the long term, they could make geopolitical trouble for us in a de facto alliance with a passive aggressive Europe, but we have many cards to play and China itself has some internal contradictions, unfavorable demographic trends and emerging factors -- like the adoption of Christianity -- that probably work in our favor.
There are really no bad scenarios with India. They can destroy anybody that may mess with them and are almost too diverse to degenerate into a civil war or hyper nationalistic state.
Saturday, May 28, 2005
more on nepali maoist-cpm strongman meet
may 28th
so they are both jnu alumni, so what's wrong with them having a little alumni meeting?
what's wrong is that the nepali is an interpol-wanted terrorist criminal, and the indian intelligence agencies have no business escorting him around the place.
this reminds me of jaswant singh escorting the hijackers to kabul. what's worse is that karat is an extra-constitutional authority, who has no official position in government. jaswant singh at least had the authority to do whatever he did (even if i think he was wrong). what authority does karat have?
here's what reader jk sent me with a pointer to his blog. i have previously talked about this event in my blog too. here are the links, jk's and mine:
http://www.varnam.org/blog/archives/2005/05/communists_meet.html
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2005/05/maoists-target-india-and-why-is-karat.html
this is more evidence that some malayalis especially communists, socialists and marxists, are troublemakers in ways disproportionate to their small numbers. i pointed out once that the tibet debacle had been put together by krishna menon and k m panikkar, with m o mathai as the nehru dynasty person's private secretary. i got yelled at by various people for pointing this out. however, the very same fact has been pointed out by jairam ramesh in his 'chindia' book (i didn't buy it, a friend of mine did and i glanced through it) as evidence of the long-running ties between kerala and tibet!
now with tka nair, mk narayanan, hormis tharakan (pm's principal secretary, national security advisor, raw chief); vincent george (the private secretary of the reigning nehru dynasty person); all malayalis, too, i am concerned. i have no evidence one way or the other if these people are communist/marxist/socialist, but the coincidence is remarkable.
with prakash karat, a 24-karat marxist malayali added to the mix, it is clear that nepal is definitely going to go the tibet way. it will be a chinese territory soon, and will be exporting revolution to india in spades.
i despair sometimes for this poor country.
and everybody is in ecstacy over manmohan singh's 'strong stewardship' of the country. yes, with 150 districts now under the naxalite gun, widespread religious persecution of hindus (starting with the kanchi incidents) and economic growth heading south; not to mention the political games being repeated in goa, jharkhand, and now bihar: the idea is clear --
"one man, one vote, one time".
you got to vote the congress and marxists into power, and that's it: you've had your fill of democracy for ever now. no more change of government, ever.
so they are both jnu alumni, so what's wrong with them having a little alumni meeting?
what's wrong is that the nepali is an interpol-wanted terrorist criminal, and the indian intelligence agencies have no business escorting him around the place.
this reminds me of jaswant singh escorting the hijackers to kabul. what's worse is that karat is an extra-constitutional authority, who has no official position in government. jaswant singh at least had the authority to do whatever he did (even if i think he was wrong). what authority does karat have?
here's what reader jk sent me with a pointer to his blog. i have previously talked about this event in my blog too. here are the links, jk's and mine:
http://www.varnam.org/blog/archives/2005/05/communists_meet.html
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2005/05/maoists-target-india-and-why-is-karat.html
this is more evidence that some malayalis especially communists, socialists and marxists, are troublemakers in ways disproportionate to their small numbers. i pointed out once that the tibet debacle had been put together by krishna menon and k m panikkar, with m o mathai as the nehru dynasty person's private secretary. i got yelled at by various people for pointing this out. however, the very same fact has been pointed out by jairam ramesh in his 'chindia' book (i didn't buy it, a friend of mine did and i glanced through it) as evidence of the long-running ties between kerala and tibet!
now with tka nair, mk narayanan, hormis tharakan (pm's principal secretary, national security advisor, raw chief); vincent george (the private secretary of the reigning nehru dynasty person); all malayalis, too, i am concerned. i have no evidence one way or the other if these people are communist/marxist/socialist, but the coincidence is remarkable.
with prakash karat, a 24-karat marxist malayali added to the mix, it is clear that nepal is definitely going to go the tibet way. it will be a chinese territory soon, and will be exporting revolution to india in spades.
i despair sometimes for this poor country.
and everybody is in ecstacy over manmohan singh's 'strong stewardship' of the country. yes, with 150 districts now under the naxalite gun, widespread religious persecution of hindus (starting with the kanchi incidents) and economic growth heading south; not to mention the political games being repeated in goa, jharkhand, and now bihar: the idea is clear --
"one man, one vote, one time".
you got to vote the congress and marxists into power, and that's it: you've had your fill of democracy for ever now. no more change of government, ever.
on the koran incident at guantanamo
may 27th
from the financial times, may 16th:
the mufti of egypt, sheikh ali gomaa, on the alleged flushing of a koran down a toilet in guantanamo bay --
"it's an unforgivable crime toward the monotheistic religions which call for the faithful to respect the sacred values of other religions"
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ah, i am glad that explains it. respect for other religions only applies to 'monotheistic religions'. that is why destroying the bamiyan buddhas was okay. this is why hindu travelers to saudi arabia will find their gitas shredded and their ganeshas ground underfoot (this first-hand experience was related to me by a diplomat's wife who said she was severely traumatized when a customs man calmly did this to her religious objects at the airport in saudi arabia).
but how does this explain the following in relation to a 'monotheistic religion'?
http://www.insightmag.com/media/paper441/news/2005/05/23/National/What-About.Bible.Desecration.By.Saudis-953649.shtmlWhat
What about Bible desecration by Saudis? By Patrick Goodenough
May 23, 2005
A U.S.-based think tank critical of the Saudi government has added its voice to allegations that authorities in the kingdom routinely destroy Bibles.
"As a matter of official policy, the government either incinerates or dumps Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia," the Saudi Institute said in an article posted on its website.
...
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i think it's simple. when monotheistic religions are powerful, they will trash the symbols of other religions as part of 'my monotheist god is bigger than your monotheist god'. muslims did this to christians in moorish spain. christians returned the favor when they kicked the muslims out of spain. now christians are powerful, so they will desecrate muslim objects. when and where muslims are powerful, they desecrate christian objects. par for the course.
the hue and cry over the koran incident is inducing liberal guilt in the west, which is a good stick to beat them with.
of course in the us, freedom of speech has allowed an 'artist' to display a crucifix upside down in a beakerful of urine, entitled 'piss christ'. this was a while ago, i wonder how people would relate to that today.
a bigger question: isn't the veneration of objects such as the cross and the bible a little strange considering the prohibitions on (graven) images? is a book a graven image? why not? it's a man-made object, isn't it?
happy memorial day weekend to those in the us.
from the financial times, may 16th:
the mufti of egypt, sheikh ali gomaa, on the alleged flushing of a koran down a toilet in guantanamo bay --
"it's an unforgivable crime toward the monotheistic religions which call for the faithful to respect the sacred values of other religions"
-------
ah, i am glad that explains it. respect for other religions only applies to 'monotheistic religions'. that is why destroying the bamiyan buddhas was okay. this is why hindu travelers to saudi arabia will find their gitas shredded and their ganeshas ground underfoot (this first-hand experience was related to me by a diplomat's wife who said she was severely traumatized when a customs man calmly did this to her religious objects at the airport in saudi arabia).
but how does this explain the following in relation to a 'monotheistic religion'?
http://www.insightmag.com/media/paper441/news/2005/05/23/National/What-About.Bible.Desecration.By.Saudis-953649.shtmlWhat
What about Bible desecration by Saudis? By Patrick Goodenough
May 23, 2005
A U.S.-based think tank critical of the Saudi government has added its voice to allegations that authorities in the kingdom routinely destroy Bibles.
"As a matter of official policy, the government either incinerates or dumps Bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia," the Saudi Institute said in an article posted on its website.
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i think it's simple. when monotheistic religions are powerful, they will trash the symbols of other religions as part of 'my monotheist god is bigger than your monotheist god'. muslims did this to christians in moorish spain. christians returned the favor when they kicked the muslims out of spain. now christians are powerful, so they will desecrate muslim objects. when and where muslims are powerful, they desecrate christian objects. par for the course.
the hue and cry over the koran incident is inducing liberal guilt in the west, which is a good stick to beat them with.
of course in the us, freedom of speech has allowed an 'artist' to display a crucifix upside down in a beakerful of urine, entitled 'piss christ'. this was a while ago, i wonder how people would relate to that today.
a bigger question: isn't the veneration of objects such as the cross and the bible a little strange considering the prohibitions on (graven) images? is a book a graven image? why not? it's a man-made object, isn't it?
happy memorial day weekend to those in the us.
Forbes: mcvoy says open source cant sustain innovation
May 27th
an interesting critique from an insider. there may be some truth to it: the open source crowd needs to eat, too, and so they typically have a day job at some cathedral-type company and then do the bazaar-type work at night (refer 'the cathedral and the bazaar', the superb exposition of open source philosophy by eric raymond.)
there is another interesting question here on the nature of property rights. is the patent mechanism appropriate or absurd? how would it be if people put their innovations into the public domain? altruism vs. greed: would this reduce innovation. it's hard to say. ancient india saw tremendous innovation that was immediately put into the public domain, not controlled by proprietary rights, and did it make ancient india less innovative? i don't think so.
a prize-winning paper by MIT economist petra moser suggests that the existing european idea of a patent system isn't going to be helpful for a nation like india. see this link too.
so what is the right model to sustain innovation?
an interesting critique from an insider. there may be some truth to it: the open source crowd needs to eat, too, and so they typically have a day job at some cathedral-type company and then do the bazaar-type work at night (refer 'the cathedral and the bazaar', the superb exposition of open source philosophy by eric raymond.)
there is another interesting question here on the nature of property rights. is the patent mechanism appropriate or absurd? how would it be if people put their innovations into the public domain? altruism vs. greed: would this reduce innovation. it's hard to say. ancient india saw tremendous innovation that was immediately put into the public domain, not controlled by proprietary rights, and did it make ancient india less innovative? i don't think so.
a prize-winning paper by MIT economist petra moser suggests that the existing european idea of a patent system isn't going to be helpful for a nation like india. see this link too.
so what is the right model to sustain innovation?
Forbes: book review of Ishiguro's latest
May 27th
kazuo ishiguro is one of my favorite writers. in the space of a month some years ago, i read both his 'The Remains of the Day' and 'The Shadow Lines' by amitav ghosh, both brilliant and unforgettable first person narratives. i was moved by both.
i haven't read any of ishiguro's later works; and i have been disappointed by Ghosh's later books and also by his thoughtless and fashionable 'secularism'.
nevertheless, this book review suggests that ishiguro is back in action, doing what he does best: understatement as the world goes to hell in a handbasket.
the tyranny of science is no less a peril than that of religious fundamentalists.
kazuo ishiguro is one of my favorite writers. in the space of a month some years ago, i read both his 'The Remains of the Day' and 'The Shadow Lines' by amitav ghosh, both brilliant and unforgettable first person narratives. i was moved by both.
i haven't read any of ishiguro's later works; and i have been disappointed by Ghosh's later books and also by his thoughtless and fashionable 'secularism'.
nevertheless, this book review suggests that ishiguro is back in action, doing what he does best: understatement as the world goes to hell in a handbasket.
the tyranny of science is no less a peril than that of religious fundamentalists.
Friday, May 27, 2005
Tirupathi loot
may 26th
from reader ram. 'secularism' in action.
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From:
Date: May 23, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Tirupathi loot
To: rajeev.srinivasan@gmail.com
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From:
Date: May 23, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Tirupathi loot
To: rajeev.srinivasan@gmail.com
[Rajeev, I got this forwarded message. The same thing would be happening in Kerala Devaswoms too]
Dear President,
I am pained to write this. I find no option. Because I
am hurt at the way the Mandirs are silently being
stripped by christist Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy garu,
CM of AP and no body seems to care. I request your
immediate intervention and render justice to the
Hindus and Hindu institutions.
Namaste,
S V Badri
This was mailed to the following:
1. President of India – Shri A P J Abdul Kalam -
presidentofindia@rb.nic.in
2. Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh – Sri Y Samuel
Rajasekhara Reddy- cmap@ap.gov.in, cmap@ap.nic.in,
drysr@ap.gov.in
3. Endowment Minister of Andhra Pradesh- Sri M
Satyanarayana- min_endo@ap.gov.in
Read my special request to the Hindus and Hindu
institutions/ organizations all over the world and
shoot your protests to the above three gentlemen. Our
institutions are seriously getting eroded. If you care
to have your great-grand child see them remain as
Hindu institutions, show your concern. NOW.
BANKRUPT AP ENDOWMENT DEPARTMENT
AND THE CHRISTIST CM- Y SAMUEL RAJASEKHARA REDDY
Religious money
Give me an honest answer. You visit Bhagawan Tirupati
Venkateshwara's Mandir (Balaji Mandir) or any Mandir
in Andhra Pradesh .You have the devotion to make a
monetary offering into the Hundi. You feel it is your
private equation with the Bhagawan. You fulfil your
Prarthana as you make a humble drop into to the Hundi.
Some of you have saved this money painfully over years
and in several cases enduring pangs of hunger to make
this offering. That is the extent of your devotion.
Secular money
Are you aware that till the last nano-second that the
money or the offering was in your hands, it was
"religious money" because your Bhakti veils your
eyes as you think that this money that is offered will
be sacredly used by the A P Government for Hindu
religious purposes like maintainence of the Mandir,
its' development and for propagation of Hindu
religious causes, payment of salaries of Archakas or
for the regular conduct of Pujas and rituals as per
the Aagamas and Sastras. You assume this is what the
AP Government is doing with your offering, because
this is a Hindu Mandir and you are a devout Hindu
offering the money out of total surrender to the
Bhagawan. You are painfully ignorant what happens to
this money once it gets into the Hundi. You just
assume that it is being used for a Hindu cause.
Perhaps you are one of those who just does not care
because your job is done and it is up to the Mandirs
to use it as they deemed fit. Yes Mandirs will use it
as they deem fit if they are out of Government
control. So if you think that your money is used only
for Hindu purposes, banish the thought.
Because, the moment the money slips into the Hundi,
the Government "converts" it into "secular money".
How can you explain why Mandir funds alone should be
the target of the Government to draw as they please
for other than Hindu religious purposes?
Money down the drain
Take for instance, the recent decision of the
Government and the Government sponsored TTD Board to
spend the Bhakta's "religious money" for "secular"
purpose of constructing the underground drainage.
Tell me if it is the duty of the Government to provide
the drainage or the duty of the Mandir? So your money
finds its way down the drain.
Or its diversion to the Veterinary College
development, not connected to the religious
institution? Whose responsibility is this, the
Government's or the Mandir's?
Will Lallu give Railway lands for mandir
constructions?
The AP Government through the TUDA (Tirupati Urban
Development Authority) demanded from the TTD a sum of
Rs 6 crores towards property and other taxes so it
could have the money required to construct a Idgah
Maidan on the Railway lands abetting the Bhagawan's
lands. Obviously, because it is Idgah Maidan, secular
Lallu did not object. And the secularists rushed to
facilitate its completion. What if a Hindu wanted to
construct a Mandir on the Railway lands? Will the same
secularists come forward with such glee? Remember,
Lallu ordered removal of Mandirs on Railway lands?
Christist YSR unhappy with his Endowment Minister
I am told that the money was stopped in the last
minute after strong protests and the intervention of
the Endowment Minister, M Satyanarayana, who as I
understand, is fighting a losing battle against the
christist YSR. Well placed sources indicate that this
minister is likely to lose his berth unless he
"converts" himself from being a good Hindu to being a
"adorable-secularist" as the christist YSR wants him
to be. Meaning, YSR does not want the Minister to
raise objections to the usage of Mandir funds for
Monotheistic religious purposes. Knowledgeable circles
in AP confided with me that the christist YSR takes
joy in making the officials of the Endowment
Department to over-rule the Minister and to ridicule
him at every opportunity. People who were present
during the "Ugadi Puraskarams" functions this year are
witness to how the Endowment Minister was humiliated
and made most uncomfortable by the christist YSR. In
Bhadrachalam, where 12 acres of lands belonging to the
Sri Rama Mandiram was given away to a christist
organisation (apparently for the construction of a
school there), who ended up constructing a church for
converting the local tribals. The Minister was
apparently unhappy with this and was denied the
protocol honours during his recent visit for Sri Rama
Navami celebrations.
Money for Idgah maidan- Yes; Money for Mandir
renovation - No
YSR found Rs 6 crores for the construction of the
Idgah Maidan in the Holy Town of Tirupati . But can
find no money when 10,000 Mandirs languish for funds
in the very backward areas of his State. He will not
give them Mandirs. As a true christist he wants them
to remain a fertile ground for the breed of new phoren
evangelicals to arrive and harvest.
Plant a church. Plant 50. Plant 100. Plant a
1000.......
YSR's folks in the Adventists will give them churches
instead. Plant a church. Plant hundred. Plant a
thousand. After all, did he not ask the Adventists to
make a church on his farm land for the benefit of 300
converts? How can a Hindu trust this man who is more
evangelical in his mission than the Pope Benedict
XVII? And the worst, he does it masquerading as a
Hindu. Many would not even know that he is a
convert/born again christist.
Render the ground fertile. So the phirangis come to
harvest.
With Mandirs and Mandir activity rendered
systematically extinct in backward areas, it is no
wonder that our Dalit and backward Hindu brethern find
themself spiritually bankrupt. Because christists like
YSR want them to be spiritually bankrupt so the
missionaries can come and take over their souls with
their brand of hatred of Hindu practices and Gods
disguised as love and social service. YSR is silently
making room for the imported evangilicals to usurp
the dalits and the backwards so they can bear the
cross for the rest of their lives. And he can bank on
their votes at the call of a Samuel. Shame.
Are Hindus incompetent to run their institutional
affairs?
The recent decision to facilitate christian
infiltration into the TTD affairs through the Ugranam
material deal with the firm owned by a Syiran
Christian of Kerala and the tele-medical facility deal
he inaugurated, between SVIMS (Sri Venkateswara
Institute of Medical Sciences) and the christist
institutions like the Frontline / Madras Medical
Mission combo of Dr Cherian should also make the
secularits proud. Because for the likes of christist
YSR, Mandirs are for mad people while the creative
ones rush to the church. How can Hindus expect him to
be sensitive to their issues? Tomorrow, he will have
christian auditors, christian administrators or even
christian parishioners doing Yesu Sahasranama to
Bhagawan Venkateshwara. Who knows what my grand child
has to witness in this sacred Mandir years from now?
Mandir money for "secular sexual" use
A P Government had recently decided to construct guest
houses and rest rooms on various highways using the
TTD money. Bhagawan's money will be put to some
"secular sexual use" to create rendezvous for the
benefit of some unscrouplous ministers and bureaucrats
to sleep with the concubines.
Where is Hindu religious cause here? Why should one
permit the TTD to become the Government appointed
nodal agency to appease minorities or to undertake
projects other than the Hindu Dharmic ones?
Page 3 Chairman and the christist broker
Both The flamboyant Page 3 personality and TTD
Chairman, T Subbirami Reddy (Cong-I) and the christist
YSR Government owe an explanation to the Bhaktas of
Bhagawan Venkateshwara for betraying our trust. Join
me in my prayers to the Kaliyuga Nayaka, Sri
Venkateshwara (Bhagawan Balaji) to render the most
severe punishment on each one of these starting from
christist YSR down to the last peon who is involved in
this systematic assault, rape, plunder and loot of His
Mandir and its possessions.
Lessons from christist YSR Government on How to ruin
a prosperous Mandir:
Let us now examine the orderly way the christist YSR
government acts to make all our Hindu Mandirs go
bankrupt. Before one starts reading this, it should be
stored in our minds that the Government has taken over
the Hindu Mandirs as a Trustee. It has no right of
ownership. And you will come to the conclusion that
this A P Government is worse than the Britishers when
it comes to inflicting damage on our Hindu
institutions and the Hindus as a whole.
There are 370,000 acres of Mandir lands in AP. Of
this, the Endowment Department does not even have
records of lands to the extent of 100,000 acres. Does
this surprise you? The Hindu Religious Endowment
Department is infiltrated by christian administrators
in the guise of Hindus.
So we have a trustee who does not even have proper
accounting system. What should you do to him? What
would you do if your accountant failed you? Trash him?
Throw him out? And what are we doing to these trustees
who have betrayed our trust.
A Ministry that does not have annual budgetary
allocation
You might be surprised to learn that the AP Hindu
Religious Endowment Department is the only department
in AP which does not get a single Rupee as the Annual
Budgetary allocation from the A P Government. So this
Deparment has no Governmental source of funding. Then
how does this department manage to run its blasting
path of systematic destruction of our Mandirs? How
does it manage the vast empire of unwanted elements in
the garb of employees?
Simple. In addition to having all the Mandir resources
at its control, It collects 15% of total revenues from
Larger Mandirs like the Tirupati Mandir and 12% from
smaller Mandirs. In addition, it collects 3% uniformly
from all the Mandirs towards what it has called as
"common-good-fund". Anything that starts with the word
Common is just plain bullshit. You saw that in the
Common Minimum Programme, too. Didn't you? Now, the
Government, in addition to dipping its hands into the
Hundi collections can just can dip into this common-
good -fund also for any activity of its choice –
depending on if the CM was a christist or a muslim or
a commie or an athiest or just an anti-national bloke
who wants to cremate Hindu institutions and scatter
its ashes across the Vatican or the Mecca like the
Ghazni did of the Dwaraka's Murti of Bhagawan Krishna.
Check the AP government Website and show me the
Endowment Department there:
It might surprise you that the Endownment Department
is not featured in the Official website of the
Government of AP while even the minority welfare has a
link presented in the website. So our Trustee is very
secretive. Wants to hide from the public glare. And
least credible because he shuns the public domain.
What is it afraid of?
Known christists – unknown christists
Take a look at the number of known christists who
ruled the State since its formation:
1. Kasu Brahmhananda Reddy
2. N.Janardhana Reddy
3. Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy
Add to these three christians, sympathisers of the
variety of Chandra Babu Naidu, whose regime saw the
State-sponsored and facilitated upshoot of the
towering statues of Mother Teresa competing with
Ambedkar in every nook and corner of AP. There are
also strong rumours doing rounds that Chandra Babu's
wife, Bhuvaneshwari (daughter of the Late NTR)
practices christianity secretly and is in touch with
the seventh day adventist missionary. Readers should
also know that it is believed in certain circles that
Chandrababu Naidu has interests in an abattoir with
Saudi links that slaughters countless cows for export
of beef. If this is true I am not amazed why he was
the first to take the flight to meet Vajpayee and
"strongly" demand the dropping of the very idea of a
Prevention of Cow slaughter Bill, when BJP was Hindu
enough in its early days of governance.
Sanction for the repairs – Hindus get into debt trap
Days before Chandra babu Naidu of TDP lost his
elections, he sanctioned Rs. 75 crores towards repairs
and restoration of some Mandirs in AP. The Endowment
Department had no funds. The Government undertook the
work. And in many cases, the presiding deities were
dragged out into the open under the pretext of
renovation and left to fend for themselves, the
vagaries of Nature. In some Mandirs local bhaktas
formed groups to facilitate renovations. Such bills
ran up to Rs 48 crores. And the Government made just a
token re-imbursement, thus putiing various Hindu
Bhaktas into a debt trap. The Government still owes
this money.
Now, where does it decide to look for the money?
The Government has already started plundering the
Tirupati Balaji's wealth. Now, it wants to be seen as
being fair to Him. It does not want people to perceive
it as being selective in its destruction. So tells the
world that Tirupati Balaji was not willing to give
money for these projects so they have to scout for
another Mandir, to satiate their rapacious appetite
for systematic destruction of Hindu institutions. I
would like to call this as: The Secular chain reaction
to the deliberate distribution of destruction.
Simhachalam Narasimha Swamy – A P Government's new
target of plunder:
The Government has now set its eyes on Simhachalam. On
Simhadri Narasimha Swami. And His thousands of acres
of lands. These lands are in the Vizag district of
Andhra Pradesh. About 1500 to 2000 acres of these
lands are under illegal occupation. In most cases, it
is simply not traceable as to who sold these lands and
to whom, the registration has long since been done,
with the connivance of various ministers and
officials. Thousands of houses and bungalows have come
up on these illegally occupied lands. The current
occupants claim that they have been in the "enjoyment"
of these lands for the past 10 to 15 years and if the
Government comes forward to "regularize" the land
transaction and decide on the price, they are willing
to pay. Now, even squatters make the rules.
Can you give a honest figure, YSR?
Will the Government dare reveal how many practitioners
of other than Hindu faith who constitute these large
number of illegal occupants? Or publish the number of
churches / mosques that have come up on these Mandir
lands? In 1842 , in the whole of Madras presidency,
the number of churches were 847 and of Roman Catholic
denomination. A current estimate says that there are a
million churches in the same region. Where did this
growth and the money for such a growth come from? In
just 100 plus years.
A new Committee is born in the barn. Some have seen
stars and dollar signs
A few years ago a committee was formed for the express
purpose of "regularizing" these illegal occupations of
the lands belonging to Simhadri Narasimha Swami
Mandir. The committee lied low, perhaps taking time to
make its own deals by virtue of being given the
oppurtunity to officially deal with the squatters.
Now, the christist YSR Government has formed a new
Committee comprising of a few MLAs and officials to
look into this matter of "regularizing" the land in
favour of the illegal occupants. This committee is
expected to submit its report shortly, highlighting
its observations and recommendations. The price per
Square Yard is under consideration. The lands where
there are no constructions will be sold "as is where
is". They expect a inflow of Rs. 125 crores. Of this,
Rs. 48 crores will be disbursed towards works already
committed and in progress. The rest will be used for
the requirements and running of the A P Endowment
Department. This is as far as the 2000 acres of the
Simhadri Mandir lands, now concluded as in illegal
occupation by squatters, of whichever faith and
denomination they belong to.
Government decides to sell Over 100,000 acres of
Mandir lands in AP
In addition to the lands belonging to the Mandir of
Simhachalam Sri Narasimha Swamy, the Endowment
Department has decided to sell 100,000 acres of lands
belonging to various Mandirs in AP and which are
either under dispute or have been illegally occupied
by all and sundry. The Government has decided that a
committee comprising of all the MLAs will be
constituted for this purpose. This committee is
enpowered to decide the price. There are 370,000 acres
of Mandir lands under the control of the Endowment
Department. Of this, the department has no records for
Mandir lands to the extent of 100,000 acres. Of the
rest of 270,000 acres, thousands of acres are under
illegal occupation.
Who gives this christist Government the right to sell
the Mandir lands?
Why should the Hindu Samaj remain indifferent and
inactive to such naked aggression and rape of our
revered institutions by a christist? The kings of
yesteryears were the Trustees of our Mandirs in their
time. They were only keen to add to the Mandir assets
with each passing year. The current day kings, and the
born-again christist kings like YSR, seem to deem it
their duty to the church as they systematically strip
us to the last fibre and parade us as pagans.
Take a look hard look at few of these facts:
1. 10,000 Mandirs in AP alone are in the worst
possible state. There is no money for lighting a
single lamp each day. Nor is Nivedyam presented to the
Presiding Deity each day. In many Mandirs there is no
money to pay for the salaries of the staff and the
Archakas.
WILL THEY DO THIS TO THE CHURCH OWNED LANDS?
2. The church is the largest real-estate owner in the
country, next only to the Government and no single
Government dares to bring this under its control. Nor
can it ever dream of using the church lands for social
justice measures like giving it away to dalits or the
naxals or to Hindu religion for constructing Mandirs
or the much needed Hindu schools/ Patashalas, Informed
sources say that the naxal distribution of Mandir
lands in AP is happening with the very blessings of
the christist YSR. After all when it comes to Hindus,
the Government which is just a "trustee" will suddenly
assume "ownership" of these lands while bartering it
for vote-bank politics and for appeasement of
minorities.
3. Let us assume that I form a Trust and do what the
AP Government is doing today as a Trustee. I would be
instantly prosecuted and hauled in for fraudulent
activity, betrayal of trust and would be ordered to
dismantle it, under the law of the land.
It is evident that The A P Government seems to
conclude that it is above the Trust laws. It can do
what it pleases when it comes to destroying Hindu
institutions. And the trust that the Hindu Bhaktas
impose on it to take care of its Mandirs be damned.
Can you expect YSR to be sympathetic to Hindu causes?
How can you expect this christist YSR to be
sympathetic to Hindu causes, its institutions and the
sentiments of its Bhaktas? It is a shame that the TTD
should allow him into the Hindu Mandir of Tirupati
without asking him to sign the mandatory declaration
of his allegiance to the Bhagawan. Worse still, he is
allowed to come alone and not escorted by his wife as
a Grihasta should do, when he visits the Mandir to
give the Vastram to the Bhagawan during the
Brahmhotsavam. I am told that she is a devout
christian and does not want perhaps to put up an act
like her husband, who is bound political and monetary
compulsions to deceive poor Hindus. I may be wrong on
this but I have not seen her with him during such
visits to the Balaji Mandir.
Hindus should understand that this AP Govenment is
headed by a rabid christian who cohabits with the
virulent adventists silently promoting baptisms by the
thousands in his State.
Sri Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy, Chief Minister of
Andhra Pradesh:
Office Address:
Residence Address: 8-2-269/S/98, Sagar Society, Rd#2,
BanjaraHills, Hyderabad
Constituency Address: D.NO.8-186, RAJAREDDY STREET,
PULIVENDLA TOWN, CUDDAPAH DISTRICT
Office Phone: 040-23455698, 23455205, 23452933
Residence Phone: 040-23608010, 23546195, 23545504,
23379133, 23379449
(Cell): 9848933333
FAX: 040-23454828
EMail : cmap@ap.gov.in, cmap@ap.nic.in ,
drysr@ap.gov.in
AND
Sri M Satyanarayana Rao, Minister for Endowments,
Government of Andhra Pradesh:
Office Address: Block-J, Floor-8, Room-811,
Secretariat, Hyderabad, AP.
Residence Address: Building No.9, (MB), Kundanbagh,
Hyderabad
Constituency Address: H.NO.2-8-125, MUKURRAMPURA,
KARIMNAGAR.
Office Phone: 040-23457113, 23453425
Residence Phone: 040-23414614
(Cell): 9849029008, 9848782024
EMail : min_endo@ap.gov.in
And mark a copy to me to either:
Setlurbadri@yahoo.co.uk
Or
Svbadri@gmail.com
Please circulate this to as many and urge them to
respond to these two ignoble men so they get to know
that Hindus are outraged with their betrayal of our
trust as Trustees of our Mandir affairs.
Namaste,
S V Badri
I am pained to write this. I find no option. Because I
am hurt at the way the Mandirs are silently being
stripped by christist Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy garu,
CM of AP and no body seems to care. I request your
immediate intervention and render justice to the
Hindus and Hindu institutions.
Namaste,
S V Badri
This was mailed to the following:
1. President of India – Shri A P J Abdul Kalam -
presidentofindia@rb.nic.in
2. Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh – Sri Y Samuel
Rajasekhara Reddy- cmap@ap.gov.in, cmap@ap.nic.in,
drysr@ap.gov.in
3. Endowment Minister of Andhra Pradesh- Sri M
Satyanarayana- min_endo@ap.gov.in
Read my special request to the Hindus and Hindu
institutions/ organizations all over the world and
shoot your protests to the above three gentlemen. Our
institutions are seriously getting eroded. If you care
to have your great-grand child see them remain as
Hindu institutions, show your concern. NOW.
BANKRUPT AP ENDOWMENT DEPARTMENT
AND THE CHRISTIST CM- Y SAMUEL RAJASEKHARA REDDY
Religious money
Give me an honest answer. You visit Bhagawan Tirupati
Venkateshwara's Mandir (Balaji Mandir) or any Mandir
in Andhra Pradesh .You have the devotion to make a
monetary offering into the Hundi. You feel it is your
private equation with the Bhagawan. You fulfil your
Prarthana as you make a humble drop into to the Hundi.
Some of you have saved this money painfully over years
and in several cases enduring pangs of hunger to make
this offering. That is the extent of your devotion.
Secular money
Are you aware that till the last nano-second that the
money or the offering was in your hands, it was
"religious money" because your Bhakti veils your
eyes as you think that this money that is offered will
be sacredly used by the A P Government for Hindu
religious purposes like maintainence of the Mandir,
its' development and for propagation of Hindu
religious causes, payment of salaries of Archakas or
for the regular conduct of Pujas and rituals as per
the Aagamas and Sastras. You assume this is what the
AP Government is doing with your offering, because
this is a Hindu Mandir and you are a devout Hindu
offering the money out of total surrender to the
Bhagawan. You are painfully ignorant what happens to
this money once it gets into the Hundi. You just
assume that it is being used for a Hindu cause.
Perhaps you are one of those who just does not care
because your job is done and it is up to the Mandirs
to use it as they deemed fit. Yes Mandirs will use it
as they deem fit if they are out of Government
control. So if you think that your money is used only
for Hindu purposes, banish the thought.
Because, the moment the money slips into the Hundi,
the Government "converts" it into "secular money".
How can you explain why Mandir funds alone should be
the target of the Government to draw as they please
for other than Hindu religious purposes?
Money down the drain
Take for instance, the recent decision of the
Government and the Government sponsored TTD Board to
spend the Bhakta's "religious money" for "secular"
purpose of constructing the underground drainage.
Tell me if it is the duty of the Government to provide
the drainage or the duty of the Mandir? So your money
finds its way down the drain.
Or its diversion to the Veterinary College
development, not connected to the religious
institution? Whose responsibility is this, the
Government's or the Mandir's?
Will Lallu give Railway lands for mandir
constructions?
The AP Government through the TUDA (Tirupati Urban
Development Authority) demanded from the TTD a sum of
Rs 6 crores towards property and other taxes so it
could have the money required to construct a Idgah
Maidan on the Railway lands abetting the Bhagawan's
lands. Obviously, because it is Idgah Maidan, secular
Lallu did not object. And the secularists rushed to
facilitate its completion. What if a Hindu wanted to
construct a Mandir on the Railway lands? Will the same
secularists come forward with such glee? Remember,
Lallu ordered removal of Mandirs on Railway lands?
Christist YSR unhappy with his Endowment Minister
I am told that the money was stopped in the last
minute after strong protests and the intervention of
the Endowment Minister, M Satyanarayana, who as I
understand, is fighting a losing battle against the
christist YSR. Well placed sources indicate that this
minister is likely to lose his berth unless he
"converts" himself from being a good Hindu to being a
"adorable-secularist" as the christist YSR wants him
to be. Meaning, YSR does not want the Minister to
raise objections to the usage of Mandir funds for
Monotheistic religious purposes. Knowledgeable circles
in AP confided with me that the christist YSR takes
joy in making the officials of the Endowment
Department to over-rule the Minister and to ridicule
him at every opportunity. People who were present
during the "Ugadi Puraskarams" functions this year are
witness to how the Endowment Minister was humiliated
and made most uncomfortable by the christist YSR. In
Bhadrachalam, where 12 acres of lands belonging to the
Sri Rama Mandiram was given away to a christist
organisation (apparently for the construction of a
school there), who ended up constructing a church for
converting the local tribals. The Minister was
apparently unhappy with this and was denied the
protocol honours during his recent visit for Sri Rama
Navami celebrations.
Money for Idgah maidan- Yes; Money for Mandir
renovation - No
YSR found Rs 6 crores for the construction of the
Idgah Maidan in the Holy Town of Tirupati . But can
find no money when 10,000 Mandirs languish for funds
in the very backward areas of his State. He will not
give them Mandirs. As a true christist he wants them
to remain a fertile ground for the breed of new phoren
evangelicals to arrive and harvest.
Plant a church. Plant 50. Plant 100. Plant a
1000.......
YSR's folks in the Adventists will give them churches
instead. Plant a church. Plant hundred. Plant a
thousand. After all, did he not ask the Adventists to
make a church on his farm land for the benefit of 300
converts? How can a Hindu trust this man who is more
evangelical in his mission than the Pope Benedict
XVII? And the worst, he does it masquerading as a
Hindu. Many would not even know that he is a
convert/born again christist.
Render the ground fertile. So the phirangis come to
harvest.
With Mandirs and Mandir activity rendered
systematically extinct in backward areas, it is no
wonder that our Dalit and backward Hindu brethern find
themself spiritually bankrupt. Because christists like
YSR want them to be spiritually bankrupt so the
missionaries can come and take over their souls with
their brand of hatred of Hindu practices and Gods
disguised as love and social service. YSR is silently
making room for the imported evangilicals to usurp
the dalits and the backwards so they can bear the
cross for the rest of their lives. And he can bank on
their votes at the call of a Samuel. Shame.
Are Hindus incompetent to run their institutional
affairs?
The recent decision to facilitate christian
infiltration into the TTD affairs through the Ugranam
material deal with the firm owned by a Syiran
Christian of Kerala and the tele-medical facility deal
he inaugurated, between SVIMS (Sri Venkateswara
Institute of Medical Sciences) and the christist
institutions like the Frontline / Madras Medical
Mission combo of Dr Cherian should also make the
secularits proud. Because for the likes of christist
YSR, Mandirs are for mad people while the creative
ones rush to the church. How can Hindus expect him to
be sensitive to their issues? Tomorrow, he will have
christian auditors, christian administrators or even
christian parishioners doing Yesu Sahasranama to
Bhagawan Venkateshwara. Who knows what my grand child
has to witness in this sacred Mandir years from now?
Mandir money for "secular sexual" use
A P Government had recently decided to construct guest
houses and rest rooms on various highways using the
TTD money. Bhagawan's money will be put to some
"secular sexual use" to create rendezvous for the
benefit of some unscrouplous ministers and bureaucrats
to sleep with the concubines.
Where is Hindu religious cause here? Why should one
permit the TTD to become the Government appointed
nodal agency to appease minorities or to undertake
projects other than the Hindu Dharmic ones?
Page 3 Chairman and the christist broker
Both The flamboyant Page 3 personality and TTD
Chairman, T Subbirami Reddy (Cong-I) and the christist
YSR Government owe an explanation to the Bhaktas of
Bhagawan Venkateshwara for betraying our trust. Join
me in my prayers to the Kaliyuga Nayaka, Sri
Venkateshwara (Bhagawan Balaji) to render the most
severe punishment on each one of these starting from
christist YSR down to the last peon who is involved in
this systematic assault, rape, plunder and loot of His
Mandir and its possessions.
Lessons from christist YSR Government on How to ruin
a prosperous Mandir:
Let us now examine the orderly way the christist YSR
government acts to make all our Hindu Mandirs go
bankrupt. Before one starts reading this, it should be
stored in our minds that the Government has taken over
the Hindu Mandirs as a Trustee. It has no right of
ownership. And you will come to the conclusion that
this A P Government is worse than the Britishers when
it comes to inflicting damage on our Hindu
institutions and the Hindus as a whole.
There are 370,000 acres of Mandir lands in AP. Of
this, the Endowment Department does not even have
records of lands to the extent of 100,000 acres. Does
this surprise you? The Hindu Religious Endowment
Department is infiltrated by christian administrators
in the guise of Hindus.
So we have a trustee who does not even have proper
accounting system. What should you do to him? What
would you do if your accountant failed you? Trash him?
Throw him out? And what are we doing to these trustees
who have betrayed our trust.
A Ministry that does not have annual budgetary
allocation
You might be surprised to learn that the AP Hindu
Religious Endowment Department is the only department
in AP which does not get a single Rupee as the Annual
Budgetary allocation from the A P Government. So this
Deparment has no Governmental source of funding. Then
how does this department manage to run its blasting
path of systematic destruction of our Mandirs? How
does it manage the vast empire of unwanted elements in
the garb of employees?
Simple. In addition to having all the Mandir resources
at its control, It collects 15% of total revenues from
Larger Mandirs like the Tirupati Mandir and 12% from
smaller Mandirs. In addition, it collects 3% uniformly
from all the Mandirs towards what it has called as
"common-good-fund". Anything that starts with the word
Common is just plain bullshit. You saw that in the
Common Minimum Programme, too. Didn't you? Now, the
Government, in addition to dipping its hands into the
Hundi collections can just can dip into this common-
good -fund also for any activity of its choice –
depending on if the CM was a christist or a muslim or
a commie or an athiest or just an anti-national bloke
who wants to cremate Hindu institutions and scatter
its ashes across the Vatican or the Mecca like the
Ghazni did of the Dwaraka's Murti of Bhagawan Krishna.
Check the AP government Website and show me the
Endowment Department there:
It might surprise you that the Endownment Department
is not featured in the Official website of the
Government of AP while even the minority welfare has a
link presented in the website. So our Trustee is very
secretive. Wants to hide from the public glare. And
least credible because he shuns the public domain.
What is it afraid of?
Known christists – unknown christists
Take a look at the number of known christists who
ruled the State since its formation:
1. Kasu Brahmhananda Reddy
2. N.Janardhana Reddy
3. Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy
Add to these three christians, sympathisers of the
variety of Chandra Babu Naidu, whose regime saw the
State-sponsored and facilitated upshoot of the
towering statues of Mother Teresa competing with
Ambedkar in every nook and corner of AP. There are
also strong rumours doing rounds that Chandra Babu's
wife, Bhuvaneshwari (daughter of the Late NTR)
practices christianity secretly and is in touch with
the seventh day adventist missionary. Readers should
also know that it is believed in certain circles that
Chandrababu Naidu has interests in an abattoir with
Saudi links that slaughters countless cows for export
of beef. If this is true I am not amazed why he was
the first to take the flight to meet Vajpayee and
"strongly" demand the dropping of the very idea of a
Prevention of Cow slaughter Bill, when BJP was Hindu
enough in its early days of governance.
Sanction for the repairs – Hindus get into debt trap
Days before Chandra babu Naidu of TDP lost his
elections, he sanctioned Rs. 75 crores towards repairs
and restoration of some Mandirs in AP. The Endowment
Department had no funds. The Government undertook the
work. And in many cases, the presiding deities were
dragged out into the open under the pretext of
renovation and left to fend for themselves, the
vagaries of Nature. In some Mandirs local bhaktas
formed groups to facilitate renovations. Such bills
ran up to Rs 48 crores. And the Government made just a
token re-imbursement, thus putiing various Hindu
Bhaktas into a debt trap. The Government still owes
this money.
Now, where does it decide to look for the money?
The Government has already started plundering the
Tirupati Balaji's wealth. Now, it wants to be seen as
being fair to Him. It does not want people to perceive
it as being selective in its destruction. So tells the
world that Tirupati Balaji was not willing to give
money for these projects so they have to scout for
another Mandir, to satiate their rapacious appetite
for systematic destruction of Hindu institutions. I
would like to call this as: The Secular chain reaction
to the deliberate distribution of destruction.
Simhachalam Narasimha Swamy – A P Government's new
target of plunder:
The Government has now set its eyes on Simhachalam. On
Simhadri Narasimha Swami. And His thousands of acres
of lands. These lands are in the Vizag district of
Andhra Pradesh. About 1500 to 2000 acres of these
lands are under illegal occupation. In most cases, it
is simply not traceable as to who sold these lands and
to whom, the registration has long since been done,
with the connivance of various ministers and
officials. Thousands of houses and bungalows have come
up on these illegally occupied lands. The current
occupants claim that they have been in the "enjoyment"
of these lands for the past 10 to 15 years and if the
Government comes forward to "regularize" the land
transaction and decide on the price, they are willing
to pay. Now, even squatters make the rules.
Can you give a honest figure, YSR?
Will the Government dare reveal how many practitioners
of other than Hindu faith who constitute these large
number of illegal occupants? Or publish the number of
churches / mosques that have come up on these Mandir
lands? In 1842 , in the whole of Madras presidency,
the number of churches were 847 and of Roman Catholic
denomination. A current estimate says that there are a
million churches in the same region. Where did this
growth and the money for such a growth come from? In
just 100 plus years.
A new Committee is born in the barn. Some have seen
stars and dollar signs
A few years ago a committee was formed for the express
purpose of "regularizing" these illegal occupations of
the lands belonging to Simhadri Narasimha Swami
Mandir. The committee lied low, perhaps taking time to
make its own deals by virtue of being given the
oppurtunity to officially deal with the squatters.
Now, the christist YSR Government has formed a new
Committee comprising of a few MLAs and officials to
look into this matter of "regularizing" the land in
favour of the illegal occupants. This committee is
expected to submit its report shortly, highlighting
its observations and recommendations. The price per
Square Yard is under consideration. The lands where
there are no constructions will be sold "as is where
is". They expect a inflow of Rs. 125 crores. Of this,
Rs. 48 crores will be disbursed towards works already
committed and in progress. The rest will be used for
the requirements and running of the A P Endowment
Department. This is as far as the 2000 acres of the
Simhadri Mandir lands, now concluded as in illegal
occupation by squatters, of whichever faith and
denomination they belong to.
Government decides to sell Over 100,000 acres of
Mandir lands in AP
In addition to the lands belonging to the Mandir of
Simhachalam Sri Narasimha Swamy, the Endowment
Department has decided to sell 100,000 acres of lands
belonging to various Mandirs in AP and which are
either under dispute or have been illegally occupied
by all and sundry. The Government has decided that a
committee comprising of all the MLAs will be
constituted for this purpose. This committee is
enpowered to decide the price. There are 370,000 acres
of Mandir lands under the control of the Endowment
Department. Of this, the department has no records for
Mandir lands to the extent of 100,000 acres. Of the
rest of 270,000 acres, thousands of acres are under
illegal occupation.
Who gives this christist Government the right to sell
the Mandir lands?
Why should the Hindu Samaj remain indifferent and
inactive to such naked aggression and rape of our
revered institutions by a christist? The kings of
yesteryears were the Trustees of our Mandirs in their
time. They were only keen to add to the Mandir assets
with each passing year. The current day kings, and the
born-again christist kings like YSR, seem to deem it
their duty to the church as they systematically strip
us to the last fibre and parade us as pagans.
Take a look hard look at few of these facts:
1. 10,000 Mandirs in AP alone are in the worst
possible state. There is no money for lighting a
single lamp each day. Nor is Nivedyam presented to the
Presiding Deity each day. In many Mandirs there is no
money to pay for the salaries of the staff and the
Archakas.
WILL THEY DO THIS TO THE CHURCH OWNED LANDS?
2. The church is the largest real-estate owner in the
country, next only to the Government and no single
Government dares to bring this under its control. Nor
can it ever dream of using the church lands for social
justice measures like giving it away to dalits or the
naxals or to Hindu religion for constructing Mandirs
or the much needed Hindu schools/ Patashalas, Informed
sources say that the naxal distribution of Mandir
lands in AP is happening with the very blessings of
the christist YSR. After all when it comes to Hindus,
the Government which is just a "trustee" will suddenly
assume "ownership" of these lands while bartering it
for vote-bank politics and for appeasement of
minorities.
3. Let us assume that I form a Trust and do what the
AP Government is doing today as a Trustee. I would be
instantly prosecuted and hauled in for fraudulent
activity, betrayal of trust and would be ordered to
dismantle it, under the law of the land.
It is evident that The A P Government seems to
conclude that it is above the Trust laws. It can do
what it pleases when it comes to destroying Hindu
institutions. And the trust that the Hindu Bhaktas
impose on it to take care of its Mandirs be damned.
Can you expect YSR to be sympathetic to Hindu causes?
How can you expect this christist YSR to be
sympathetic to Hindu causes, its institutions and the
sentiments of its Bhaktas? It is a shame that the TTD
should allow him into the Hindu Mandir of Tirupati
without asking him to sign the mandatory declaration
of his allegiance to the Bhagawan. Worse still, he is
allowed to come alone and not escorted by his wife as
a Grihasta should do, when he visits the Mandir to
give the Vastram to the Bhagawan during the
Brahmhotsavam. I am told that she is a devout
christian and does not want perhaps to put up an act
like her husband, who is bound political and monetary
compulsions to deceive poor Hindus. I may be wrong on
this but I have not seen her with him during such
visits to the Balaji Mandir.
Hindus should understand that this AP Govenment is
headed by a rabid christian who cohabits with the
virulent adventists silently promoting baptisms by the
thousands in his State.
Sri Y Samuel Rajasekhara Reddy, Chief Minister of
Andhra Pradesh:
Office Address:
Residence Address: 8-2-269/S/98, Sagar Society, Rd#2,
BanjaraHills, Hyderabad
Constituency Address: D.NO.8-186, RAJAREDDY STREET,
PULIVENDLA TOWN, CUDDAPAH DISTRICT
Office Phone: 040-23455698, 23455205, 23452933
Residence Phone: 040-23608010, 23546195, 23545504,
23379133, 23379449
(Cell): 9848933333
FAX: 040-23454828
EMail : cmap@ap.gov.in, cmap@ap.nic.in ,
drysr@ap.gov.in
AND
Sri M Satyanarayana Rao, Minister for Endowments,
Government of Andhra Pradesh:
Office Address: Block-J, Floor-8, Room-811,
Secretariat, Hyderabad, AP.
Residence Address: Building No.9, (MB), Kundanbagh,
Hyderabad
Constituency Address: H.NO.2-8-125, MUKURRAMPURA,
KARIMNAGAR.
Office Phone: 040-23457113, 23453425
Residence Phone: 040-23414614
(Cell): 9849029008, 9848782024
EMail : min_endo@ap.gov.in
And mark a copy to me to either:
Setlurbadri@yahoo.co.uk
Or
Svbadri@gmail.com
Please circulate this to as many and urge them to
respond to these two ignoble men so they get to know
that Hindus are outraged with their betrayal of our
trust as Trustees of our Mandir affairs.
Namaste,
S V Badri
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