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1. Shocking facts about Benny Hinn...
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2. Hinn\'s meet getting undue publicity: Catholics
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3. Violence Mars Bandh Against Evangelist Meet
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4. 'We thought we'd be blessed but nothing really happened'
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5. Dr. Bhyrappa Sees Sonia's Role Behind Benny Hinn Concert
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:07:57 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Shocking facts about Benny Hinn...

Shocking facts about Benny Hinn...

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/shocking_facts_about_benny_hin.html

deceptioninthechurch.com

Shocking facts about Benny Hinn...

Benny Hinn is a Roman Catholic mystic, who is taking the Pentecostal
and Charismatic Church down the ecumenical road towards Rome. This has
been known for some time. For example the Italian Assemblies of God
refused to endorse his crusade in Rome (1996), sponsored by the
independent Pentecostals, who themselves were shocked when Mr Hinn
failed to once open his Bible on the first night of the Crusade. On
the second night the interpreter refused to interpret Hinn's
favourable comments about the Pope and the Catholic Church and the
music group refused to sing. The up-shot was that the organisers
signed a document of "non-association" with Benny Hinn, and promised
never to invite him to Italy again. Despite this he was invited as
guest speaker to the Australian Assemblies of God Conference in May
1997, where once more he spoke favourably of the Pope and the Roman
Catholic Church. At that Conference he told how he had met with
Cardinal Sin of the Philippines, with whom he formed a
n agreement to encourage people who attended his crusade not to leave
the Roman Catholic Church. The Cardinal in turn promised to encourage
Roman Catholics to attend the Hinn Crusade. (Things have become worse
since then! We have documented evidence that Hinn is into necromancy -
please see below.)

The most disturbing feature was that no one at the Australian
Assemblies of God Conference raised public objection to Hinn's
comments. Now Benny Hinn has been invited to conduct a Healing Crusade
in Auckland on June 13, 1998. Those endorsing the Crusade include
Wayne Hughes, Senior Pastor of the Takapuna Assembly of God, Ian
Bilby, Senior Pastor of the Auckland City Elim Church, Paul de Jong,
Senior Pastor of the Christian Life Centre, Auckland, Hamish Divett,
Senior Minister of the Christian City Church, Auckland and Peter
Mortlock, Senior Pastor of the Bays Christian Fellowship, New Life
Churches of New Zealand. (Letter dated 4th March, 1998 issued by the
New Zealand branch of the Benny Hinn Ministries (PO Box 24377, Royal
Oak, Auckland - phone 09 521 0133; fax 09 528 7185; mobile 025 285
1311 - coordinator Averil E Quertier).)

Wayne Hughes is the General Superintendent of Assemblies of God in New
Zealand and was one of the Church leaders who, together with Ian
Bilby, former President of the New Zealand Elim denomination, endorsed
the visit of Rodney Howard-Browne whose "laughing revival" has caused
so much division among Churches and Christian families in New Zealand
and Australia. The New Zealand Apostolic Superintendent also endorsed
Rodney Howard-Browne, BUT is not listed as endorsing Benny Hinn.

CWM alerted Wayne Hughes to the fact of Benny Hinn's documented
necromancy in late January or early February '98. Despite this he has
continued to endorse Hinn and his ministry, although it is rumoured
that he is concerned that he might be doing the wrong thing. For the
record we have published a copy of the relevant email. Our strong
recommendation to all Christians is that you do not participate in any
supportive way - by means of donations or otherwise - in the Benny
Hinn Crusade or to the Benny Hinn Ministries.

John the apostle of our Lord Jesus Christ wrote: - "Whoever
transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not
have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father
and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine,
do not receive him into your house nor greet him (bid him God speed -
AV) for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds (biddeth him God
speed is partaker of his evil deeds - AV)" - 2 John 9-11. This is THE
WORD OF THE LORD.

Evidence that Benny Hinn practices necromancy...

Further documented proof is supplied in the book - "THE CONFUSING
WORLD OF BENNY HINN" obtainable from your nearest CWM Office at $25
each including post. (This book has been enlarged to include a chapter
on Hinn's necromancy. Authors include a USA, AOG pastor. Increased
price mainly due to the need to get more books from USA by air mail.
We also recommend the two videos"THE SIGNS & WONDERS MOVEMENT EXPOSED"
- Part 1 - MIRACLES and Part 2 - MONEY - at $30 each including post.)

The following was supplied by Michael Oppenheimer, Let Us Reason
Ministries, HAWAII on Philip Powell's request following a report that
Benny Hinn had caused a great deal of trouble in the islands following
his Honolulu Crusade in March, 1998.

Taken from a Benny Hinn programme - "THIS IS YOUR DAY" - June 11, 1997
- also repeated at a recent Benny Hinn PARTNER CONFERENCE in Atlanta.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to tell you something right now. The
Lord showed me a vision about - goodness it's almost been a year now.
And - (I) can tell you I sense now the time has come when this vision
is gonna be fulfilled. I had a vision of the night. What I saw, myself
walk into a room. I've shared this before but just in case you -
you've not heard it I want you to hear it. I saw myself walk into a
room and there stood Kathryn Khulman.

And I've not seen Kathryn in a dream or a vision [in] years. Uh, when
she died, the day she died, the morning she died, I had a dream what I
- what I saw in a - in a - in a - in a casket with a white dress. And
when I woke up in - in the morning, I knew she had died and it was on
the news that same morning. And so it's been many years.

And there she was standing in this room and she said to me-of course
this was a dream, but really more of a vision. A lot of times! dreams
are really visions of the night, and the Bible calls them that. When -
when God gives to you in the fashion it really came with me.

When I was a little boy, I saw the Lord in this dream. It was really
so real, it was really a vision because when - when He appeared to me
my body became electric just like electricity went through me and when
I awoke that electricity was still on my body." (Benny Hinn, This Is
Your Day, June 11, 1997)

"Well, anyway, in this one, in this vision that-that I saw-saw Miss
Khulman. And she said, 'Follow me.' That's all she said. And I
followed her to a second room. In that second room stood the Lord.
When the Lord, uh-when-when I saw the lord, Kathryn disappeared. She
was just gone [Hinn snaps fingers]. And now the Lord looked at me and
said, 'Follow me.' And I followed him to a third room. In the third
room sat a gentleman - I still remember his face. I can tell you, I
still remember the man's face. And the man sat in this wheelchair in
that third room. There was a big hole in his neck. A tube down his
throat. He was crippled on that wheelchair. And he had tubes down his
body. Totally crippled, totally para-totally, of course, paralyzed.
The Lord laid His hands on this man and as He did the tubes
disappeared, the hole closed, he was completely healed and got up off
the wheelchair. It was a creative miracle. Now I'm standing watching
the Lord in this vision heal this man. And n
ow as the man wasealed, the Lord looked at me with piercing eyes -
I'll not forget that one I'll tell you. (He) looked at me with
piercing eyes and said, 'DO IT!' And the [Hinn snaps fingers] - and
the dream and the vision came to an end." (Benny Hinn, This Is Your
Day, June 11, 1997)

Interpretation of the "vision":

"When I woke, when I got up, when I came out of the vision, I was
trembling and perspiring from head to toes. I know exactly what that
vision means. It was Kathryn Khulman who took me, who introduced me to
the Holy Spirit. That is the meaning of that first room when she said,
'Follow me.' But when Kathryn was gone, Jesus was there. Kathryn did
her job and was gone and the Lord said, 'Follow me' into a third room.
And there was this man. I believe I'm about to enter that third room.
[Audience applause.] I'm telling you I feel it. I sense it. I believe
that room speaks of a dimension, a new dimension in the Spirit. I
believe I've been in that second room now for the last seven years.
What is amazing to me, what's amazing to me is God works or has worked
in my life in seven year cycles. I'm now in the seventh year -
beginning the eighth of the ministry of these crusades. 1990 we
started - March. This is what? '97. And just now I feel another
platform, another dimension, another
level is really coming. ell, saints you're going to be a part of it.
God- God has sent you as partners to be a part of it. So how many are
ready to see greater things for the glory of God?" (Benny Hinn, This
Is Your Day, June 11, 1997)

"Can I tell you something? I've never shared this. Never! I was in
prayer one day and a man appeared in front of me. Happened for two
days in a row, twice one day and the next day. The same man appeared.
I've never told this, never. ... This is recently. I'm not talking
about a long time ago. He was about six feet two. Old man. Had a
beard. ... Glistening white beard. His face was somewhat thin, but
very bold! Eyes - crystal blue. He had on a white garment, whiter than
my shirt could ever get. On his head was a shawl, like a - like a
covering. He looked like a priest. Every part of him glistened like
crystal. And I spoke out and I said, 'Lord, who is this man I see?'

I know you may - you may think I lost my mind, but the lord said,
'ELIJAH the prophet" ...Seven and half years ago, just before the
ministry started, before these crusades began, suddenly in front of me
I saw a group of people. I couldn't even tell you who they were. I
recognized only one of them. It was Miss Khulman. And every one of
them seemed to be urging me to pray. Now I know this sounds crazy, but
it's all right. I don't mind if you call me crazy, because I liked
what I saw. And this - this group was saying, now I couldn't hear
them. I'd been in prayer at least, uh, hours. And suddenly, just -
just this flash came in front of me. I can not describe it to you
except to tell you it was more real than you sitting right in front of
me right here. It was not a mental thing. It was so alive, pastor.
It's so alive. It was like a flash of lightening hit me and all I saw
was these people's faces. I will tell you, when I get to heaven. I
will recognize them (at least fifty to s
eventy of them were sittingn a group), and they were saying to me,
"Pray! Ask God to give you a healing ministry that will touch the
world!" And suddenly, I heard Kathryn's voice, [Hinn snaps fingers]
and out of the blue, suddenly there - there she was, it's crystal
clear. And she in her beautiful smile, the way she said, "Ask! We're
waiting for you to ask! We're praying with you to ask " And the vision
disappeared. And suddenly I said, "Lord!" and I asked. A week later
the anointing hit my life. I believe the saints in heaven urge us to
pray. Urge us to do it! Do you know why I believe it?

'Cause it's in the Bible! You say, "Show it to me." Jesus saw Moses
and Elijah who came to talk to Him about His passion on the cross!
Ladies and gentlemen, there's way more than you know about God! And
the reason I'm telling you all this? The Lord said to me only a few
days ago, He said, "You're - you're about to come into a new level.
Get ready!" And I'm already feeling the rumblings in the heavenlies.
Somebody is about to talk to me again. Something is about to happen
again. I don't know what it is. But I - I'm so excited, I feel
butterflies in my tummy. I feel something. I've had three prophets
lately, absolute people that know the voice of God, that have said to
me, "You're about to walk into a new inheritance in the Spirit." I
don't know what it is, when it is, but it's coming. And tonight, the
Lord is putting upon my heart to pray for you, that you should walk
into a new inheritance in the Holy Ghost. Stand up, I want to pray for
you. Come on. Hallelujah! ...

You're about to have experiences that people may call you crazy if you
tell them. But lift your hands and ask that God give you revelations.
Come on. Blessed Jesus, I give you praise. I give you praise. And I
ask you to bring those people into a new inheritance in the Spirit.
We've lived so long on this side of the fence. We're so accustomed to
this world of ours and we're so tired of it and its pain. Oh, Lord,
take us beyond the veil. Take us into a new inheritance. Trust us to
keep it sacred. Trust us to be faithful in the blessed name. Ask Him
to give that to you. Ask Him to give that to you. (Recording and
original transcript by: Michael Oppenheimer, Let Us Reason Ministries,
Honolulu Crusade, February 28, 1997

"One of the strangest experiences I had a few years ago [was]
visiting Aimee's tomb in California. This Thursday I'm on TBN. Friday
I am gonna go and visit Kathryn Khulman's tomb. It's close by Aimee's
in Forest Lawn Cemetery. I've been there once already and every so
often I like to go and pay my respects 'cause this great woman of God
has touched my life. And that grave, uh, where she's buried is closed,
they built walls around it. You can't get in without a key and I'm one
of the very few people who can get in. But I'll never forget when I
saw Aimee's tomb. It's incredibly dramatic. She was such a lady that
her tomb has seven-foot angels bowing on each side of her tomb with a
gold chain around it. As-as incredible as it is that someone would die
with angels bowing on each side of her grave, I felt a terrific
anointing when I was there. I actually, I - I, hear this,' I trembled
when I visited Aimee's tomb. I was shaking all over. God's power came
all over me. ... I believe
the anointing has linged over Aimee's body. I know this may be
shocking to you.

... And I'm going to take David (Psalmquist) and Kent (Mattox and
Sheryl Psalmquist) this week. They're gonna come with me. You-you-you
gonna feel the anointing at Aimee's tomb. It's incredible. And
Kathryn's. It's amazing. I've heard of people healed when they visited
that tomb. They were totally healed by God's power. You say, 'What a
crazy thing.' Brother, there's things we'll never understand. Are you
all hearing me?"

(Benny Hinn sermon, Double Portion Anointing, Part #3, Orlando
Christian Center, Orlando, Fla April 7, 1991. From the series, Holy
Ghost Invasion. TV# 309,)

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:32:23 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Hinn\'s meet getting undue publicity: Catholics

Hinn's meet getting undue publicity: Catholics

http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/21bang1.htm

K Ramakrishna in Bangalore
January 21, 2005 15:56 IST
Rediff

The Catholic Church in Karnataka has disassociated itself from the
controversial prayer and healing session organised by American
evangelist Benny Hinn in Bangalore on Friday.

Archbishop Bernard Moras of Bangalore said the Church is not "directly
or indirectly involved" in the Festival of Blessings programme by
Binn, which has invited criticism from a number of Hindu groups in
Karnataka.

"Everybody has the right to preach about Christ, but that does not
mean it should have fanfare and hype. Even Jesus Christ went about
preaching the good news and doing good and he worked awesome miracles.
But he did it all with admirable humility," Archbishop Moras told
reporters.

He said the Festival of Blessings by Hinn is attracting unnecessary publicity.

The archbishop rejected Hinn's oft repeated allegation in his meetings
that the Roman Catholic Church worship idols.

"External symbols are necessary for a religion. Catholicism is not
idolatrous. We do not have idols. We only have statues and we
'venerate', not 'worship' saints. Worship belongs to God and God
alone. The images of saints we have and venerate help strengthen our
relationship with God," Archbishop Moras said.

He said the Catholic Church in India does not encourage its followers
to attend the Hinn prayer meetings.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:34:50 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Violence Mars Bandh Against Evangelist Meet

Violence Mars Bandh Against Evangelist Meet

http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/21bang.htm

K Ramakrishna in Bangalore | January 21, 2005 11:50 IST
Last Updated: January 21, 2005 19:28 IST
Rediff

Amidst protests from Hindu priests and the Bharatiya Janata Party in
Karnataka, renowned American evangelist Benny Hinn is slated to hold
his prayer meet -- Festival of Blessing -- at Jakkur, on the outskirts
of Bangalore, on Friday evening.

Stray violence marred the bandh called by 'Hindu Jagaran Vedike'
against Hinn's programme. However, normal life largely remained
unaffected.

About 15 BJP legislators, led by party national general secretary
Ananthkumar, courted arrest as part of their protest against the
meeting.

Many pro-Hindu organisations led protest marches to the venue on
Friday, disrupting traffic and forcing the Bangalore police to boost
security for the prayer meeting.

Nearly 10,000 policemen have been deployed at the venue.

Swami Raghunath Guruji, a representative of Hindu priests in
Karnataka, said that Hindus were not against Hinn's prayer sessions
but were concerned about conversions.

"We fear that this prayer meeting will be used to convert poor Hindus
into Christianity. We want the government to ensure that no conversion
takes place during the Festival of Blessings," Swami Raghunath told
rediff.com.

He alleged that Hinn's Festival of Blessings programme was an
international conspiracy sponsored by US agencies to invest Rs.1.4
billion for conversions in Asia.

In fact, Hindu priests in Karnataka had announced that they have
called off protests against Hinn's programme after the state
government assured them that there would not be any conversions during
the healing sessions.

The state government has refused to ban the Festival of Blessings,
saying that the Indian Constitution permits prayer meetings.

Karnataka Revenue Minister M P Prakash, who met with a group of Hindu
priests, said that the government would ensure that would be no
conversions or healing sessions during the event.

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:35:25 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: 'We thought we'd be blessed but nothing really happened'

'We thought we'd be blessed but nothing really happened'

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jan222005/i2.asp

BANGALORE
Deccan Herald
Saturday, January 22, 2005

While the gullible were mesmerised by Benny Hinn's deft use of
histrionic skills, others dimissed the evangelist as an 'ineffectual
messenger of Jesus'.

A night of makebelieve miracles, one could clearly see as the
self-proclaimed "miracle healer" and evangelist Benny Hinn went about
"healing" people in the name of Jesus Christ at the Jakkur airfield.
While several people who had gathered on the stage with different
illnesses and complaints claimed that they were "completely healed",
there were many others who said they could not feel any difference in
their condition.

"I don't feel any difference. My legs don't move. I tried to stand up
but I could not," said 30-year-old Vasanth Shetty while looking at his
crippled legs with disdain. Vasanth, along with his brother had come
to get "healed". Asha Mary, while walking back with her 11-year-old
hearing-impaired daughter, said she was not sure as to when her
daughter would start hearing. "We had come thinking that she will be
blessed but nothing really happened. She cannot hear anything," she
added.

And there was Kenchaiah, a 60-year-old man from Belgaum who was
brought to the event by his son Mahesh. "He had a stroke and is
paralysed. We were told that he (Benny Hinn) will cure my father, but
I see no change in him," said a disappointed Mahesh as he lugged his
father on his back. Rohit Kumar from Yelahanka, afflicted with polio,
said he prayed but did not feel any difference.

On the stage, the evangelist went about "healing" people as they fell
on the ground and were picked up by his men and led them off the
stage.

He, however, began the evening by saying that Jesus Christ was the
healer and not him. He promised that "God will heal three times more
tomorrow than today."

'The miracles'

Among the "miracles" performed: a young girl who could not walk for
years began jumping on the stage hysterically, a visually impaired
girl vouched that her vision was back and that she could see things
around her, a mother whose daughter had a hole in her heart claimed
that the child had been healed, a cancer patient said the tumour had
disappeared, a doctor who had met with an accident four years ago
threw his crutches and walked away briskly.

But, a little distance from the stage, the healer had a convoy of
doctors waiting upon him for any emergency.

Benny Hinn captured the attention of the audience by his "histrionics"
as he admonished the "demon epilepsy to go and never come back again."

The pitch in his voice rose to a crescendo as he called people to
raise their hands and praise the Lord. "Rise and be healed in the name
of Jesus. Pray for yourself, pray for those around you. Feel His
presence... there are miracles happening all around you tonight...
Jesus, the son of God is alive. Tonight, He will heal you."

Bangalore City Police Commissioner S Mariswamy, when asked by
reporters to comment on the veracity of Benny Hinn's claims, answered:
"Even if it was hypnotism, there is nothing wrong. Hypnotism is not an
offence."

Union Minister Oscar Fernandes was more guarded: "We must talk to the
patients and find out what they really felt afterwards. Everything
works on the basis of faith in America. Different people have
different perceptions of God."

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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:00:28 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Dr. Bhyrappa Sees Sonia's Role Behind Benny Hinn Concert

Dr. Bhyrappa Sees Sonia's Role Behind Benny Hinn Concert

http://www.starofmysore.com/main.asp?type=news&item=5023

Star Of Mysore
Date: January 17, 2005

After a long gap, a man who claims to have the power to heal the sick
and dying has surfaced on the Indian shores. The man is none other
than a controversial Pastor Benny Hinn. This 51-year-old Arab-Israeli
who became a Canadian and then an American and the Founder of World
Outreach Centre, Florida in the United States of America.

But this self-styled Godman's claims, though never proved, have always
kicked up a row and this time he is in a centre of controversy because
his new stop in the name of evangelism is India. He is organising a
massive programme 'Pray for India' in Bangalore on Jan. 21 to 23.

Even the Chief Minister N. Dharam Singh has ruled out any ban on
Hinn's meet in Bangalore on Jan. 15 saying the Government has no right
to intervene in religious affairs.

Religion and politics

Whatever it is, now it is certain that, afterall, religion cannot be
separated from politics. This can be further confirmed as the Congress
Supremo Sonia Gandhi, has allowed six Chief Ministers from
Congress-ruled States to attend Benny Hinn's programme.

Noted litterateur Dr. S.L. Bhyrappa came down heavily on the proposed
"Pray for India" meet of Benny Hinn while supporting the stand taken
by Bhajrang Dal in opposing such a controversial meet.

He was speaking at the function held here yesterday in a workshop of his works.

When the reporters asked him about the Government being soft on Benny
Hinn, Dr. Bhyrappa said, "When the Chief Ministers of six
Congress-ruled States are attending at the behest of their 'madam,' it
is confirmed that Sonia Gandhi is behind this move."

"Christian missionaries have billions of dollars, donated by rich
Christian nations, to be used for the conversion of the gullible into
Christianity. They believe that conversion is their religion and
whenever they open a school or even a hospital, their only intention
is conversion. I have experienced this when I wrote the novel
Dharmashree about how Christians use their religion to convert saying
Jesus Christ is responsible for everything," Dr. Bhyrappa regretted.

Wholesale curer!

Continuing his assault on the alleged conversion programmes of
Christians, Dr. Bhyrappa said 'Missionaries go house-to-house in the
beginning, then bring gullible and poor housewives to show miracles.
They may treat one in a million, which is nothing but pure luck. May
be those missionaries did miracles on few individuals but this Benny
Hinn is a 'wholesale curer'!"

When asked why the people's representatives should recognise
themselves with these controversial religious figures, Dr. Bhyrappa
shot back, "When the 'madam' herself is supporting this idea, how can
her confidantes stay behind? That is the very reason how Benny Hinn is
given such a high standing and has the audacity to pray for India.

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